Minutemen: Thinking Too Much Can Ruin a Good Time

Minutemen mixtape for two sides of a 110-minute Maxell cassette, 70 songs recorded between 1980 and 1985. Many of the links are alternate or live versions caught on videotape. What's your favorite Minutemen song?

Side One: Can you really be sure of the goddamn time of day? (turn handle, puppet)

1. Do You Want New Wave or Do You Want the Truth? (live) 2. I Felt Like a Gringo (alternate version from Radio Tokyo Tapes) 3. 9:30 a.m. May 2 4. Joe McCarthy's Ghost [here's live video] 5. Maybe Partying Will Help 6. Shit You Hear at Parties (alternate version from "Ballot Result") 7. Anxious Mo-Fo [here's "Retreat" and "Anxious Mo-Fo" live] 8. Definitions 9. Search [here's "Search" and "Static" live] 10. King of the Hill 11. Themselves (solo acoustic) [here it is live] 12. Disguises 13. The Only Minority [here's "The Only Minority" and more, acoustic] 14. Mr. Robot's Holy Orders [here's a live version, might swap on tape] 15. The Struggle 16. Working Men Are Pissed [here it is on Youtube] 17. This Ain't No Picnic [here's an alternate, and acoustic version] 18. Party With Me, Punker 19. Spillage 20. The Anchor [plus live video] 21. One Reporter's Opinion 22. Cut 23. Black Sheep 24. Cohesion 25. Fake Contest 26. Dream Told By Moto 27. Paranoid Chant 28. West Germany 29. Bob Dylan Wrote Propaganda Songs 30. Nothing Indeed 31. The Toe Jam 32. Take 5, D. 33. Situations at Hand 34. '99 35. Two Beads at the End 36. My Part (solo acoustic) 37. Sickles and Hammers 38. Song for El Salvador

Side Two: In honesty, I scream it (hoping for hope is only a prayer)

39. No Parade 40. The Price of Paradise 41. The Big Stick 42. The Punch Line 43. Political Song for Michael Jackson to Sing 44. If Reagan Played Disco 45. Jesus and Tequila [here's more audio] 46. Stories 47. Faith/East Wind 48. The Glory of Man 49. History Lesson 50. It's Expected I'm Gone 51. Courage 52. There Ain't Shit on TV Tonight 53. Static 54. Toadies 55. Clocks 56. Validation 57. Ruins 58. My Heart and the Real World 59. Straight Jacket 60. Shit from an Old Notebook 61. Take Our Test 62. History Lesson - Part II [here's live video] 63. Badges (live) 64. Corona [here's The Tour version] 65. I Felt Like a Gringo 66. What Is It? 67. No! No! No! to Draft and War (live cover of song by Sambia)/ 68. Joe McCarthy's Ghost (live) [I was at this show. Anyone have the full tape?] 69. Little Man with a Gun in His Hand (version from Double Nickels on the Dime) [here's a live video, and more] 70. Hittin' the Bong 71. Love Dance 72. Closing Jam (excerpt)

Minutemen: Thinking Too Much Can Ruin a Good Time

From the records:

3: Cracks in the Sidewalk (various artists LP, New Alliance, November, 1980) 4, 8, 27, 37, 56: Paranoid Time (classic debut single, 45 7-inch EP, second record released by SST, December, 1980) 55: Chunks (various artists 45 LP, New Alliance, July, 1981) 9, 12, 15, 38, 39, 42, 49, 53, 57, 59: The Punch Line (classic debut album, 45 LP, first LP released by SST, November, 1981) 23: Joy (45 7-inch EP, New Alliance, recorded August, 1981) 44: Bean-Spill (EP, Thermidor, 1982) 13, 20, 25, 29, 34, 47: What Makes a Man Start Fires? (LP, SST, January, 1983) 2: The Best of the Radio Tokyo Tapes (various artists double LP, Chameleon, 1987) 22, 26, 31, 64: Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of Heat (45 LP, SST, August, 1983) 16, 18: The Politics of Time (LP of unreleased music, New Alliance, 1984) 5, 7, 14, 17, 19, 21, 24, 28, 30, 32, 35, 43, 45, 48, 50, 52, 54, 58, 61, 63, 65, 69, 71: Double Nickels on the Dime (classic double LP, SST, 1984) 11: Neighborhood Rhythms (Patter Traffic) (various artists double LP, U.S. Freeway, 1984) 1: Great bootleg recording of Minutemen live, 12/1/84 (Thanks, Sonicfreak!) 10, 60: Project: Mersh (45 12-inch EP, SST, 1985) 33, 40, 41, 46, 51, 66, 70: 3-Way Tie (For Last) (LP, SST, 1985) 36: English as a Second Language (Talking Package) (various artists LP, 1988, U.S. Freeway/Enigma) 6, 62, 67, 68: "Ballot Result" (double LP of live and unreleased music, SST, 1986) 72: "Ballot Result" cassette release (ditto)

(Note: All non-SST-CD tracks are available at Corndogs.org except for "Clocks.")

Minutemen: Thinking Too Much Can Ruin a Good Time

D. Boon: guitar except on 32, lead vocals except on instrumentals and * Mike Watt: bass, *lead or shared vocals on 1, 3, 9, 22, 44, 53, 56, 57, 61, 63 George Hurley: drums, *shared vocals on 57 Songwriting: 1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 16, 18, 19, 21, 22, 25, 26, 27, 29, 32, 42, 43, 44, 48, 50, 54, 55, 58, 59, 61, 62, 63, 65, 68 by Watt 5, 6, 13, 37, 53, 60 by Boon/Watt 7 (contrary to credits), 9, 14, 20, 23, 30, 34, 47, 52, 57 by Hurley/Watt 10, 11, 12, 15, 17, 24, 28, 36, 38, 39, 40, 41, 49, 51, 64, 70, 71 by Boon 31 by Boon/Cooper/Crane/Hurley/[Dirk] Vandenberg/Watt 33, 46, 66 by Kira/Watt 45 by [Joe] Carducci/Boon 56 by [Martin] Tamburovich/Watt 67 by Sambia 69 by [Chuck] Dukowski/Boon 72 by Boon/Hurley/Watt

Minutemen: Thinking Too Much Can Ruin a Good Time

More joyous Minutemen links

Video: 1985 interview material [from IRS's The Cutting Edge?] with Fear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TeekNb0E00

"9:30 May 2" analyzed at ILM http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=38677

Book: 33 1/3 book on Double Nickels on the Dime http://www.amazon.com/Minutemens-Double-Nickels-Dime-33/dp/0826427871/ref=cm_pdp_review_teaser_product/103-3233196-3135803

A History of San Pedro Punk http://www.angelsgateart.org/shows/punk_rock.html

A History of San Pedro Punk flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/angelsgate/sets/450090/

Video: "Ack Ack Ack Ack" (Urinals cover) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmvopN-hLZk

Video: "Ain't Talkin' Bout Love" (Van Halen cover) http://youtube.com/watch?v=YGybnHed8gw

American Hardcore http://www.sonyclassics.com/americanhardcore/

Answers.com page http://www.answers.com/topic/minutemen-band?cat=entertainment

"Ask Mike Watt" archive at TalkBass http://www.talkbass.com/forum/archive/index.php/f-55.html

D. Boon MySpace page tribute http://www.myspace.com/dboonspage

D. Boon obituaries http://www.sidemouse.com/boon.htm

Big Boys Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Boys_(band)

Black Flag Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Flag_(band)

James Brown Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Brown

Captain Beefheart Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Beefheart

Chimpomatic interview with Mike Watt http://www.chimpomatic.com/articles/mikewatt/index.php

Robert Christgau Minutemen reviews http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=Minutemen http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/rock/ourband-01.php http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=Mike+Watt http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=firehose

The Clash http://blogs.citypages.com/pscholtes/2006/11/complicated_cla.php

Byron Coley article on the Minutemen from 1985 http://www.sidemouse.com/bcoley.htm

John Coltrane http://www.johncoltrane.com/

Corndogs.org http://corndogs.org

Creedence Clearwater Revival Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creedence_Clearwater_Revival

CD: D. Boon & Friends http://www.geocities.com/box_o_plenty/001.html http://box-o-plenty.com/

"D. Boon in the Present Tense" (L.A. Weekly) http://www.amazon.com/Sam-Minuteman-Can-Read-Book/dp/0064441075

Movie/video: The Decline of Western Civilization http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Decline_of_Western_Civilization

Blog: Do You Want New Wave or Do You Want the Truth? http://doyouwantnewwaveordoyouwantthetruth.blogspot.com/

Dos MySpace page http://www.myspace.com/dosasintwo

LP: Double Nickels on the Dime (buy the vinyl of this, which has all 45 songs; but buy all the CDs, too)

Double Nickels on the Dime Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Nickels_on_the_Dime

Chuck Dukowski interview at Perfect Sound Forever http://www.furious.com/Perfect/chuckdukowski.html

Dusted interview with Mike Watt after Minutemen "reunion" http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/176

Book: Get in the Van: On the Road With Black Flag http://www.amazon.com/Get-Van-Road-Black-Flag/dp/1880985241

Green Hills Memorial Park, Rancho Palos Verdes (D. Boon's grave) http://www.greenhillsmemorial.com/

Book: Hardcore California: A History of Punk and New Wave http://www.amazon.com/Hardcore-California-History-Punk-Wave/dp/086719314X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-3233196-3135803?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187649489&sr=1-1

Hey Taxi (with George Hurley in 1980) http://www.michaelandspider.com/past2present.html

The History Lesson tribute band http://www.myspace.com/thehistorylesson

Husker Du database http://world.std.com/~thirdave/hd.html

"I miss D. Boon" graffiti http://www.flickr.com/photos/schlabotnik/131461984/

Interpunk (place to buy Minutemen records) http://www.interpunk.com/

TV: IRS's The Cutting Edge (had segment on the Minutemen) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0284720/

Video: "Joy at Sea" concert at Youtube http://www.youtube.com/profile_video_blog?user=eurekamikefilm

Audio: Live at the 9:30 Club 1985 bootleg http://hangoverhard.blogspot.com/2007/03/minutemen-live-at-930-club-washington.html

Live Music Archive page http://www.archive.org/details/Minutemen

Martin Lyon Minutemen photos http://martinlyon.com/minutemen/photos-minutemen.html

lyrics at Lyricwiki http://lyricwiki.org/Minutemen

Maximum Wattage http://www.maximumwattage.com/

Maximum Wattage message board http://www.maximumwattage.com/phpbb2/

Meat Puppets http://www.themeatpuppets.com/

Minutemen: Thinking Too Much Can Ruin a Good Time

Minuteflag MySpace page tribute http://www.myspace.com/minuteflag

Video: Minutemen 1984 video http://homepage.mac.com/jme/iMovieTheater9.html

Book: The Minutemen and Their World http://www.amazon.com/Minutemen-Their-World-American-Century/dp/0809001209

"The Minutemen - Arguing with the Fish" by Joe Carducci http://www.hootpage.com/hoot_carducci-spielsofa.html

Minutemen at Emusic http://www.emusic.com/artist/Minutemen-MP3-Download/11613983.html

Minutemen at Live Music Archive http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=Minutemen%20AND%20mediatype%3Aetree%20AND%20collection%3Aetree

Minutemen discography http://www.idiot-dog.com/music/minutemen/indexm.html

Minutemen lyrics http://www.go2lyrics.com/minutemen-lyrics-artist.html

Minutemen MySpace tribute page http://www.myspace.com/theminutemen

"Minutemen: One Reporter's Opinion" http://www.angelfire.com/ny/lowbrow/minutemen2.html

Minutemen page at Information Overload http://mitglied.lycos.de/RaFuchs/musik/minmen/index.htm

Minutemen page at Kill from the Heart http://homepages.nyu.edu/~cch223/usa/minutemen_main.html

Minutemen page at Stuk on Earth http://www.stukonearth.com/minutemendiscography.html

Minutemen page by John Chedsey http://www.ssmt-reviews.com/db/searchrev.php?artistID=746&showReview=true

Minutemen thread at ILM http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=4415

Minutemen Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minutemen_(band)

Movie: My Char-Broiled Burger With Brewer (2000) http://www.chicagoreader.com/hitsville/000818.html

one MySpace blogger's opinion http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=149961403&blogID=298495448

Audio: Non-Plussed interview http://www.corndogs.org/misc/minutemen_nonplussed_interview_1981.mp3

Blog: Number One Hit Song http://www.numberonehitsong.com/

CD: Our Band Could Be Your Life: A Tribute to D. Boon and the Minutemen http://littlebrotherrecords.com/ourband.html

Book: Our Band Could Be Your Life: Scenes from the American Indie Underground, 1981-1991 http://www.amazon.com/Our-Band-Could-Your-Life/dp/0316063797

Our Band Could Be Your Life review and essay http://citypages.com/databank/22/1083/article9800.asp

Website: Party With Me Punker http://www.partywithmepunker.com

Peck Park, San Pedro http://www.laparks.org/dos/parks/facility/peckPk.htm

Perfect Sound Forever interview with Mike Watt http://www.furious.com/Perfect/mikewatt.html

Raymond Pettibon Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Pettibon

The Plugz Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plugz

CD: The Pop Group, Y

"Punk is whatever we made it to be" D. Boon sticker https://www.cafepress.com/hoothelp.18163361

Book: Rock and the Pop Narcotic http://www.amazon.com/Rock-Pop-Narcotic-Joe-Carducci/dp/188098511X

Rockbill interview with the Minutemen http://sidemouse.com/rockbill.htm

Rolling Stone article from 1985 http://www.thirdav.com/zinestuff/rs452.html

Rough Trade (all Minutemen CDs and records available through here) http://www.roughtrade.com/

Saccharine Trust http://www.saccharinetrust.com/

Sacred Grounds coffee house, San Pedro http://www.sgrounds.com/

Book: Sam the Minuteman http://www.amazon.com/Sam-Minuteman-Can-Read-Book/dp/0064441075

San Pedro High School Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Pedro_High_School

Sidemouse: Watt Makes a Man Start Fires: A Mike Watt Tribute Page http://sidemouse.com/

Sonic Youth http://www.sonicyouth.com/

Book: Spiels of a Minuteman http://www.oiedecravan.com/soon.html

SST Records at Emusic http://www.emusic.com/browse/l/b/-dbm/a/0-0/1400116533/0.html

"The SST Records Story" http://www.furious.com/Perfect/sst1.html

SST Records Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SST_Records

SST Superstore (doesn't appear to be working) http://sstsuperstore.com/

Suburban Voice interview with the Minutemen http://www.sidemouse.com/minutemen.htm http://www.operationphoenixrecords.com/suburbanvoiceminutemen.html

Tar Babies http://tarbabies.us/bartabbies/

Today in San Pedro Punk http://www.angelsgateart.org/blog/?cat=15

Tom Troccoli on George Hurley and Spot http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=36525

Tom Troccoli interview (talks about D. Boon) http://www.markprindle.com/troccoli-i.htm

Tom Troccoli's Minutemen set-lists cached

Trouser Press Minutemen discography http://www.trouserpress.com/entry.php?a=minutemen

Truly Need #10 interview with the Minutemen http://www.dementlieu.com/~obik/arc/other/mmen_tn10.html

Book: Ulysses http://www.amazon.com/Ulysses-Modern-Library-James-Joyce/dp/0679600116

The Urinals Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Urinals

Varmintcong interview with Mike Watt http://www.varmintcong.com/wattinterview.htm

Audio: "Vietnam" acoustic plus commentary http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q02GH4Vxqg

Radio/audio: The Watt from Pedro Show http://twfps.com/

Mike Watt Hoot Page http://www.hootpage.com/

Watt interview about Double Nickels http://www.hootpage.com/hoot_watt-fournier06intrvw.html http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=59436154&blogID=247122916

Mike Watt/Minutemen discography at Sony http://www.sonymusic.com/artists/Watt/disco.html

Mike Watt music MySpace page http://www.myspace.com/wattfrompedromusic

Mike Watt MySpace page http://www.myspace.com/wattfrompedro

Mike Watt Yahoo message group http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/mikewatt/

Book: We Got the Neutron Bomb: The Untold Story of L.A. Punk http://www.amazon.com/We-Got-Neutron-Bomb-L/dp/0609807749

Movie/video: We Jam Econo: The Story of the Minutemen http://www.theminutemen.com/

We Jam Econo MySpace page http://www.myspace.com/wejamecono

We Jam Econo review links (I was too harsh on it; the movie's way inspiring) http://blogs.citypages.com/ctg/2005/08/party_with_me_punker_in_a_movi.php

Wire http://www.pinkflag.com/

Wire Wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire_(band)

Brad Zellar tribute to Double Nickels [I'll have to clean this up] http://mt.laweekly.com/min/pscholtes/2004/04/i_hate_1984_the_minutemen.php

Minutemen: Thinking Too Much Can Ruin a Good Time

Minutemen at the 1984 Los Angeles Street Scene, photos by Eric Stringer, from the Maximum Wattage message board.

Minutemen: Thinking Too Much Can Ruin a Good Time

Brave Ear Magazine, Winter '86 No. 3

Thank you to Peter Rabid's 1985 Minutemen special on his WORT-FM show in Madison, New Needles, for inspiration in making this tape and other similar recent tapes for friends and Toasty. Whoever stole my tape of that show, and my An-Aesthetic zine with the Minutemen, out of my high-school locker, I hope you kept them all these years. Thanks to Nate Patrin for burning me songs from Corndogs.org, and to Sonicfreak for burning me that 1984 show. More links, graphics, and thoughts to come... Discussion thread at DUNation.

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