Bradlee Dean's benediction

How a tracksuit-wearing homophobe became the MN GOP's favorite preacher

Bradlee Dean's benediction
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Smith's Capitol prayer was too extreme for Minnesota legislators

On a humid Thursday evening, Bradley Dean Smith approaches the podium at Jesus People, a church hidden by miles of back roads and farmland 25 miles northwest of Minneapolis.

It seems immediately obvious that the audience isn't in for a traditional service. For one, it's not even being held in the church's sanctuary. Smith—better known by his pseudonym, "Bradlee Dean"—is preaching in a small meeting room barely big enough for the six tables and scattered chairs it holds.

Even so, there's plenty of elbow room. Only four people are actually paying any attention—all men, sitting as far apart from one another as possible. Three women are sitting in the back attending to a pair of toddlers who won't stop screaming.

Scott Anderson
The rock 'n' roll life pushed Smith into the arms of the Lord
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The rock 'n' roll life pushed Smith into the arms of the Lord
Religion has proved to be a lucrative business for Bradlee Dean. In 2001, You Can Run made $212,230 in total revenue. Income fluctuated in subsequent years, ultimately skyrocketing to nearly $1 million in 2009.
Source: Tax documents filed with the IRS.
Religion has proved to be a lucrative business for Bradlee Dean. In 2001, You Can Run made $212,230 in total revenue. Income fluctuated in subsequent years, ultimately skyrocketing to nearly $1 million in 2009.
Smith's ministry sells everything from comic books to movies to drum pads
Smith's ministry sells everything from comic books to movies to drum pads

Smith seems unfazed by the low turnout. The towering minister begins bellowing the Word as if he's delivering a sermon to a congregation of thousands.

"Before I got saved, I lived the rock 'n' roll life!" proclaims Smith, testifying with his right hand. "I did everything under the sun. I indulged in everything. I didn't know salvation was the way!"

He doesn't dress like the typical minister. With his long hair pulled into a ponytail and draped through the back of an Adidas baseball cap, Smith looks like a guy on his way to softball practice. He's wearing a Penn State jersey and basketball shorts that reveal the spider's web of tattoos that crawl up and down his arms and legs.

In only a short time, Smith's sermon manages to cover a lot of ground: Teachers are "queerifying" the kids. Americans brought illegal immigrants to Arizona by purchasing their drugs. The war on drugs and alcohol could end tomorrow if the government just started "enforcing its own laws."

Then there's the media, one of Smith's favorite punching bags. Journalists are persecuting Smith, he explains, by printing flat-out lies. Two thousand reporters wrote about a controversial prayer Smith delivered at the Minnesota Capitol a month earlier, Smith claims, and none of them bothered to call him for comment.

The sermon eventually turns to the subject of homosexuality, another of Smith's favorite talking points. He didn't start the war on homosexuals, he says, but he'll fight it in the name of God.

"Everything with them is backwards!" Smith hollers. "The women acting like men, and the men acting like women. And you want them to rule over you?!"

   

IT'S HARD TO TELL by the scene at Jesus People, but Smith's ministry, You Can Run But You Cannot Hide International, has a high profile in the Midwest.

Michele Bachmann, now a frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination, has publicly prayed for the success of You Can Run, and will appear at an event with Smith this fall. Former gubernatorial candidate Tom Emmer—now a leading Republican voice on the radio—has also come out publicly to support Smith.

At the end of the legislative session this year, Smith became the center of state politics when Rep. Ernie Leidiger (R-Mayer) invited him to give the opening prayer at the Capitol.

Smith took the opportunity to declare Barack Obama the first president to not believe in Jesus, causing such a row that even the GOP had to denounce the man who had been their invited guest.

"That type of person will never, ever be allowed on this House floor again, as long as I have the honor of serving as your speaker," House Speaker Kurt Zellers (R-Maple Grove) told the Legislature.

Yet Smith has found a lucrative business model. Since the ministry was started 10 years ago, You Can Run has seen skyrocketing revenues, blossoming into a $1 million operation by 2009, according to tax records filed with the IRS.

Even the Capitol prayer disaster turned into a money-making opportunity for Smith: He's currently selling copies of a movie he made about it—humbly titled "The Prayer That Rocked the Capitol"—for $10 each on his website. Get the special "Family Package" for just $15 more.

You Can Run has found a way to put a price tag on everything—comic books, school assemblies, CDs, drum pads—but the majority of its funding comes from a street team that was recently banned from Walmart parking lots for being less than truthful about the church's mission. In 2009 alone, this clan of young acolytes raked in more than $444,000, according to tax records.

"You don't raise that kind of money walking around with a boot like the firefighters do," says Rob Boston, senior policy analyst for Americans United for Separation of Church and State. "That's a lot of money."

In person, Smith can be just as convincing as he is on the pulpit. He swears he's doing the Lord's work in Minnesota.

"Did Bradlee Dean pay his taxes? Yeah," says Smith. "So what's the issue? There isn't one."

  

ONE OF SMITH'S FIRST memories is of being babysat by his five-year-old brother. The son of a single mother who worked full-time for a railroad company, Smith was forced to learn at a young age how to fend for himself.

Even when his mom was home, life was far from wholesome. The family moved dozens of times to various apartments in low-income areas of north and south Minneapolis. Smith tells tales of his mother's boyfriends breaking into the house late at night and beating her up in front of him.

"It was like, how do we survive this?" says Smith. "How do we as kids raise our mom?"

Religion was never in the picture growing up, says Smith. His family was technically Lutheran, but his understanding of the faith was mostly limited to the obligatory Easter and Christmas church services.

When Smith reached his mid-teens, he began taking advantage of his lack of parental guidance. Smith says his mom's place became the perennial party house, where he and his friends would frequently drink beer.

Like so many teenagers in the early '80s, Smith was mesmerized by the debut of MTV—particularly bands like Mötley Crüe and Iron Maiden. After high school, he took out a loan, bought a drum set, and started a metal band called Surprise Attack.

As Smith tells it, the vortex of the 1980s metal scene sucked him into a life of sin. He was touring around the country, living the reckless life of a rock star. But the details of exactly how depraved Smith's life was seem to change depending on his audience.

The story of the metal drummer who did "everything under the sun" has become part of Smith's born-again sermon. A 2006 article in the right-leaning Weekly Standard claims Smith was hospitalized six times for drug overdoses, arrested three times for drunk driving, and was once stabbed in the head with a screwdriver.

But in recent interviews with City Pages, Smith describes a much tamer scene. He says his greatest vice wasn't drugs or alcohol, but a rotating repertoire of women.

As far as drugs, Smith now says he witnessed other musicians indulge, but never so much as took a puff of weed. "I never touched that junk."

He does have one DWI in Minnesota, according to court records, but he says his drinking wasn't that big of an issue.

"It was never, like, a serious drinking problem for me," Smith says. "I did it because I wanted to do it. It wasn't hard for me to say no to it. It never was."

At any rate, Smith says the lifestyle became too much for him. He recalls the show when he realized he couldn't take it anymore.

"I went to talk to my Hooters calendar girl before the second set," he says. "I said, 'It's like the Lord's got a rope around me, and he's pulling me out of here. I can't do this anymore, this isn't flying.'"

  

THE FIRST TIME JAKE MacAulay saw Smith preach was at a church called Living Waters.

It was the late '90s, and although MacAulay hadn't been religious growing up, he was suddenly feeling the pull of faith.

"I was kind of at a point where I was like, 'I need to get my crap together,'" MacAulay recalls.

A self-described "counterculture kid," MacAulay couldn't see where he fit in among the regular congregates. That changed when he saw Smith.

MacAulay was intrigued by Smith's tattoos and long hair. After reading Smith's book, an autobiography called You Can Run But You Cannot Hide, MacAulay was sold, and became Smith's apprentice.

MacAulay wasn't the only one in the Twin Cities drawn to Smith's unconventional approach. Not long after the two met, a fellow churchgoer had the idea that Smith should speak at Little Falls High School.

Smith liked the idea, and contacted the principal to get permission. As Smith tells it, his born-again rock star routine was a huge hit with the kids and their principal.

"He liked the assembly so much that we came back and did it again," says Smith. "After we were done playing music, the kids had such a respect for us."

Which is how MacAulay and Smith got the idea to start touring high schools across the country. MacAulay likens it to a new small business starting up, and they were looking at an endless supply of potential new clients.

"In our case, it was high schools," he says. "There's no shortage of high schools."

  

AS THE STUDENTS FILED into the Fargo North High School gym, none of them had any idea what was in store.

All they had been told was that they were going to see an "important" presentation, which made the drums, guitars, and tattooed guys seem that much more bizarre.

Without warning, fog began pouring out of machines on stage and filling the auditorium. An abrasive drum echoed, cut by shredding electric guitars.

When the music finally stopped, the long-haired drummer came out from behind the kit and took the microphone.

"There are so many inconsistencies in the JFK assassination...you can just tell you're being lied to," Smith told the kids, according to J.R. Martin, then a student at Fargo.

"It was really intense," says Martin. "Bradlee Dean came across really angry about a lot of things—about people not caring about Christianity and its role in life in the United States."

Before his dumbstruck audience, Smith segued into a tirade about Britney Spears. He called her a "whore" who was corrupting the youth.

"We're being assaulted with this media world where Britney Spears is an acceptable public figure," Dean told the room.

Not everyone was thrilled by the evangelists touring the public-school circuit on the taxpayer dime. Though Smith brags about the binder of referrals from satisfied customers, his visits have just as often been met with criticism that they blur the separation between church and state.

"It's kind of a double injury," says Annie Laurie Gaylor, who, as founder of the Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation, has filed several complaints against Smith's ministry. "They're preying on students, and they're being paid by school districts to do so."

But the critics didn't silence Smith and MacAulay. In 1999, the two established You Can Run as a tax-exempt religious nonprofit.

They began touring high schools full-time. At a couple of thousand tax-free dollars per appearance, the money was rolling in. In 2001, the ministry made $212,230 in revenue, according to tax records.

  

A FEW YEARS AFTER incorporating the roving ministry, Smith wanted to establish You Can Run as a full-blown church. In doing this, he hired Glen Stoll, a lawyer who specializes in setting up tax shelters for religious organizations, to create trusts for the ministry.

But Stoll wasn't the average tax lawyer. In addition to his firm, Stoll had close ties to an organization called "The Embassy of Heaven."

Based out of Stayton, Oregon, the Embassy of Heaven acts as an alternative government for religious zealots. It offers passports, business licenses, driver's licenses, and more.

So many of the Embassy's members have gone to jail that the organization brags about it with a running list of martyrs on its website. There's even a book that teaches its members how to "not fear" jail, an inevitable part of following God, according to the Embassy.

"If you have given your allegiance to Jesus Christ, and you live your beliefs, you will go to jail," reads the introduction to the book. "It is inevitable because the world will hate you."

In 2005, Stoll was served with a federal injunction for giving religious nonprofits illegal tax advice, according to court documents. One of his clients, a theme-park mogul named Kent Hovind, was charged with 58 counts of federal tax fraud, and is currently serving a 10-year prison sentence.

Stoll is visibly a touchy subject with Smith. "I had nothing to do with that individual," he says. "Glen promised us the world, and then judgment was brought against him by an attorney."

Though Smith admits doing business with Stoll, he denies his ministry did anything illegal. Smith also notes that he has since taken legal action against Stoll to distance his ministry from Stoll's services.

Smith is equally reticent about the subject of the Embassy, but he had a registered license with the group that expired only last year. When asked about this, he writes it off as more "hurtful crap" perpetuated by his critics, not even worthy of comment.

"If I can be so bold as to say this, man—bro—we're in this together," Smith says. "It was Martin Luther King that said we're going to go down in history as fools unless we can come together on this."

  

YOU CAN RUN EVENTUALLY did re-file as a church called Old Paths. Because the IRS demands almost no paperwork from religious organizations, public records are scant. MacAulay describes Old Paths as a place to instruct missionaries.

"Its purpose is to basically train leaders," MacAulay says.

Some of these "leaders" went on to make up You Can Run's street team, a small group of mostly young ministers that hangs out in front of Walmarts and gas stations to collect donations.

In 2008, after You Can Run reestablished itself as a nonprofit, the group's fortunes rose quickly. The ministry collected $385,670 in revenue that year, according to tax records.

The following year, the church's earnings nearly tripled. Tax records show You Can Run claimed $985,319 in revenue for 2009. Both MacAulay and Smith nearly doubled their salaries, to $42,028 and $51,303 respectively, plus "other compensation" that included a housing allowance and added $24,869 for MacAulay and $45,887 for Smith.

MacAulay, who keeps the books for You Can Run, says the ministry re-established as a nonprofit in 2008, so tax records don't account for the full year's earnings. He also says the ministry received a large in-kind donation of equipment in 2009. But the tax records show that the largest source of income that year by far—$444,126—came from donations picked up by the street team.

MacAulay couldn't say exactly how many people are on the street team, but estimates there are about six members at any one time. By this math, each member brought in an average of $74,000.

To reach that annual haul, each street team member would have to take in $202 from donations each day and never take a single day off—including Sunday.

"That causes my antennae to go up," says Boston. "That's a lot of money to raise for a small group like that."

  

BACK AT YOU CAN RUN headquarters in Annandale, a pack of kids play with plastic swords, looking for something to stab.

"That's the one you want to get," says MacAulay, gesturing toward the intruding journalist.

Formerly the Annandale firehouse, the enormous office serves as a second home for ministry members. There's a classroom where kids are home schooled in the back, several spacious offices, and a radio studio where Smith broadcasts his Sons of Liberty show. One room is stacked floor to ceiling with You Can Run merchandise, and there are reserves piled up in the garage.

Smith sits in the conference room before a gigantic portrait of a bald eagle. Prints of the U.S. Constitution hang next to him on the wall, accompanied by the 10 Commandments, the crucifixion scene, and a table of You Can Run merchandise. A closer look at Smith's tattoos shows that his body is also covered in bald eagles and biblical art.

Smith points to the wall, where a map of the United States hangs pockmarked with blue tacks. He says there are 331, each representing a high school his ministry has visited. Smith tells the story of a kid who once approached him after an assembly and accused him of blurring the lines between church and state. Even thinking about the accusation makes Smith visibly angry.

"The reason they would ask that question is because you talk about moral issues like abortion, to the extent of homosexuality in public schools—" Smith pauses, realizing what he's about to say next requires some warning.

"This is probably going to shock you," he continues, "but all I ever did was cite the laws."

He goes into great detail about his interpretation of the law, particularly how it relates to homosexuality.

"Did you know it was illegal until 1961?" Smith bellows. "End of story."

When asked about his prayer at the Capitol, Smith says Republicans had no illusions about the nature of his ministry. Rep. Leidiger approached Smith after meeting him at a screening for Smith's documentary My War, which goes into great detail about You Can Run's mission.

"He sat and watched the whole program," Smith says of Leidiger.

Yet Smith won't let earthly politicians slow his holy crusade. He answers to a power greater than the Minnesota Republican Party.

"Do you think I would do what I do and say what I say if I thought I was doing anything wrong?" asks Smith. "I'm trying to right the wrongs and look out for posterity, because nobody ever took the time to do that for me."

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D J Dixon
D J Dixon

oops few mistakes ....As far as drugs, Smith now says he witnessed other musicians indulge, but never so much as took a puff of weed. "I never touched that junk." .................................................................................................................................................. Ya rite Brad you lair why don't ya tell the truth I still live in the same house on Vincent Ave N were we used to do Coke all the time and drink YOU LOOSER..DID you pay Cheta for the drums yet?? How about Pete's start up money for you? where is that?? You can't run but you are a liar. What happened to the lawn mower you broke and were to replace when ya started this scam. you lie still all the time you VICTIM of SIN..If ya want a real story go to all the people he scammed and ripped off when we were young..Sure ya find ton's around tooties on Lowery

D J Dixon
D J Dixon

As far as drugs, Smith now says he witnessed other musicians indulge, but never so much as took a puff of weed. "I never touched that junk." ....................................................................... Ya rite Brad you lair why don't ya tall the truth I still like in the same house on Vincent Ave N were we used top do Coke all the time and drink YOU LOOSER..DID you pay Cheta for the drums yet?? How about Pete's start up money for you You can't run but you are a liar. ot the lawn mower.. you lie still all the time you VICTIM

Twolf1920
Twolf1920

The hatemonger is regularly on channel 23 WHICH I now boycott. He was in full victim mode spouting off about how Rachel Maddow and Andy Birkey had "misquoted" and taken his words "out of context" which is the biggest load of horse manure ever!!!

Wheelchairs
Wheelchairs

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Cruzy
Cruzy

I had complained to wal mart about their hosting a group selling Dean videos-very glad to hear they got rid of them. these guys make money while pretending to help kids, and dishing out hate on the side.

Rachelle
Rachelle

I am very disgusted that this horrible man first spoke at the school, in the town, that I grew up in.. This bothers me VERY VERY much. If he EVER comes to a school that my son attends I will go absolutely BERSERK!

JaeCar
JaeCar

Obviously another nutter for Jesus.

Ben There Done That
Ben There Done That

I can sum up Bradlee's ministry in a couple of sentences. He has a inner circle, he has absolute power within the circle, when ever he speaks his underlings view it as thus saith the Lord, if some one leaves the inner circle, its because they have fallen away and are backslid. He used to preach that Jesus never said I love you to anyone, What does the word beloved mean? Everyone else is wrong and they are right, there are no good churches, they all preach a false grace... that about sums it up. I know these things from first hand experience.

it's me too
it's me too

He and his group are not a reflection of Christians. Unfortunately, people Like this give Christians a bad name. It mentions many times in the bible to be careful- there will be false prophets that will rise up and deceive many. I'm not going to lie, according to the bible, which I believe in completely, homosexuality is a sin. But no one should die because of that.. We can't force decisions on people. And there are no sins worse than others. A sin us a sin, so Bradlee is no better than any other sinner, as I am no better than Bradlee. We all sin and all fall short. That's where grace comes in. Because of God's grace that we don't deserve, but freely get, we are set free. Bradlee needs to be held accountable to someone as most pastors (although he isn't one) have an organization they are under that helps hold them accountable for what they do. Also, this is why it is important to have your own relationship with Jesus and not go by strictly what someone says. Read your bible, pray and know it for yourself so when someone speaks you will know if it is truth or not. His group, I feel, doesn't know for themselves. He wouldn't like that. They trust what he says as law.This article is not completely true, words gave been twisted but this group has gotten away from what it was first meant to be.

where they do that at?
where they do that at?

This article feels like a character assassination. I think Bradlee has said somethings that he wishes he could change, but who hasn't? As Bachmann gains steam im sure we will hear more about Bradlee Dean and his "anti gay" ministry, give me a break. If you were to poll all these Mega Church pastors, I am convinced they would share the same view as him on homosexuality, they just dont have the balls to say it! Gay marriages have been shot down 31 out of 31 times, the people have spoken, nuff said. Keep on trucking B- RAD!

JEAN
JEAN

A number of years back I read the city pages article about Michele Bachmann called the Chosen One or something like that. I first have to say that it was that article that caused me to vote for Michele Bachmann and also support her campaign. And I am beginning to feel the same with this article. I notice you use words like "claims" and "tells tales of his childhood" as if to tell the reader Bradee is outright lying about his life. You set up the story in such a manner as if to make almost everything Dean says a falsehood. Funny how you think others are stupid for believing Michele Bachman or Bradlee Dean, yet on the contrary, the people who read this article are not very bright if they believe it and not find out for themselves. So once again thank you for "bellowing" your slanted story, I will now turn my support in the direction of Bradlee Dean.

Daniel
Daniel

If is not guilty then WOW! Look at all of the hate that is being shot at him.....for not being guilty. Besides this article has nothing really to do with that one statement (that was made well over a year ago) this article is criminal. It is "insinuating" that he is doing something wrong. Just because you disagree with his message doesn't automatically mean he is doing something wrong. Half the article is either about his pay or the way he dresses.....WHO CARES HOW HE DRESSES! That is so weak, you have nothing better to write about then what clothes he wears. Seriously! We have kids being kidnapped, drugs everywhere, rape, murders, thefts and tons of crime in our country and this is what you want to talk about? WOW!

It's me
It's me

Bradley may not guilty of the statements these articles are stating.

He may not have said these things verbatim. But what he's not taking responsibility for is what he's INSINUATING.

To speak about homosexuals being executed in extreme Muslim cultures, and that they are standing by God's laws.....then to say he's not calling for the execution of gays?

You can't use such extreme statements, and not take responsibility for what they are insinuating.

Bradley needs to take a look at what he speaks against. How can not using a different name at a fundraiser, or not saying your Christian not be decietful.

Your taking "being wise as serpents and harmless as doves" way to far.

Stop the charade. Really take a look at what your doing. You can't really believe in your hearts of hearts this all persecution.

Daniel
Daniel

Has anyone reading this ever been lied about? It's sucks. Read the article, Bradlee stated all that he said about homosexuality in schools was quoting the law. Most of these one sided biased opinions are simply against anyone who speaks out against homosexuality.

Question: Why do people who proclaim that they are sooooo "tolerant" of others options, HATE anyone who has a different opinion.

You say Brad is speaking hate. Look at how much hate you are speaking out him. Talk about hypocrites!

River Falls, WI
River Falls, WI

Ive seen the collection tables recently. They claim they are a youth suicide prevention group. Is there any evidence that they do that type of work? I'm sure it's very little if any, but I would like to know exactly how fraudulent they are.

u already know
u already know

ask your self who paid for the lipo suction of bradley smiths throat a few years back. Also how about all the trips to Hawaii and Florida that they take twice a year for vacation, or how about all the new tatoo work done on his arms and legs. Brad u got started on the right track....money can destroy a person. Got to stay humble, or you will crumble. Sold your self to start paying taxes huh? Thought u stood against that? Sorry but got the freedom to make a comment and ask some questions.

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

Rep. Leidiger is such a huge piece of shit. Like seriously how horrible of a person is that guy? Not only is he a stupid bigot that thought Bradlee Dean needs to spew his brand of hate at the Minnesota Legislature but then he lies about how he doesn't know what Bradlee Dean is all about. Such an awful person. I bet he likes to kick puppies and babies when no one is around.

Scoops
Scoops

Isn't it funny that the GOP is constantly talking about the bible and jesus, but could really give a shit about the poor? I love how republicans like to pick and choose certain parts of the bible to follow and totally ignore the most important parts like taking care of the poor. The whole government shutdown is about the GOP unwillingness to raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires which would keep thousands of the poorest Minnesotans on health care plans. Doesn't seem very christian to me.

Scoops
Scoops

What a fucking outrage that public schools are using tax payer money to have this douche bag teach hate at our schools. I guarantee this guy is a fraud. Jimmy swaggert and Jim Bakker anyone?

Fremontupton
Fremontupton

One of these "street teams" assailed me at a S. Minneapolis gas station. I realized they were Dean's people, and said I felt sorry for Dean, surely one of the very few people the Speaker of the MN House had actually apologize for, and Dean must have felt bad about that. The guys on the team responded by getting very aggressive, yelling and getting up in my face, threatening to do damage to my car. I left quickly, before they decided on physical violence.

Afterwards, I realized ALL members of these "teams" we of a specific type: young, male, strongly built, hairy. This clicked with me once I realized exactly how homophobic this group was. Is it really a cover for a gay sex cult? Possibly pedophiliac in nature?

Neal Atomkinder
Neal Atomkinder

A majority of people agreed with slavery at one time, did that make it right?

James
James

Next up on News at Six: local idiot supports other idiot to stick it to the man (people who are not idiots.)

James
James

Yes, simply because there are other bad things in the country, we should ignore examples of gross unethical behavior, hypocrisy, and the erosion of the separation of church and state by snake oil salesmen. Yep, that makes sense.

Audlindal
Audlindal

You ask what Bradlee Dean lies about? It is NOT a crime to be gay; in fact, there are laws protecting people from harassment based on their orientation, in addition to race, religion, sex, ethnic group. Yet Dean speaks as if these "good ol days" are still in existence today.

To raise money, he sends groups of people out to WalMarts and gas stations, and they claim to be a group they are not, and claim the money is going for one thing when it is really going to another. This would be akin to a little girl in a green uniform showing up at your door selling cookies, only to find out the money is going to a skinhead group.Changing your name (not being truthful about the organization you actually are) is lying both to the public and perhaps to the government.

To get into school and offer up an assembly, Dean must lie to school administrators about the message his group shares. Other readers on this page have commented about how he might get to give the message once, but it blocks the path for any Christian group following Dean's that might try to get into the schools.Kids are savvy. You think they appreciate the message that to preach what should be the holy word that lies should be told to get there? Sorry, but no independent-minded thinking person is going to accept a message from a guy who has to lie and manipulate in order to deliver the message.

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

Any jokes and insults lobbed at Bradlee Dean pales in comparison to what Bradlee is trying to do to gay people. No one is trying to make laws to limit Bradlee Dean's freedom. We are just point out he is a greedy lying sack of shit. We are trying to discredit Bradlee Dean because he is a bigot hate monger that makes the world a worst place. He's a shameful shitty human being who doesn't know one fucking thing about the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus walked around spreading love. He spoke up for the weakest and the hated. Bradlee Dean is a bully that spends his life making life miserable to people that are different than him. If Jesus Christ was walking around today he would be working his ass off feeding starving children not turning neighbors against neighbors like Bradlee Dean. I don't remember too many Jesus quotes where he talks about how holy it is to kill gay people like Bradlee Dean has been quoted as saying. By the way I'm not tolerant of your moronic opinion. People like Bradlee Dean should not be tolerated he steals my tax dollars and uses them to spread hate. As far as I'm concerned fraudulent thieves like you idiots should be thrown into prison. Bradlee Dean can't make shit preaching to other bigots so he defrauds public schools and steals money from them. Fucking disgraceful.

u already know
u already know

They say suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Ugh
Ugh

In his mind, they are a "suicide prevention group" because they feel that being gay causes suicide, and they work to "get young people out of the gay lifestyle." In addition, they are very anti-abortion, and believe that a person who has an abortion will commit suicide because they can't handle their decision. Basically they feel that their definition of what constitutes sin, which is pretty much everything, is a short road to suicide, so they want to rid the world of all of it, which will in turn, prevent suicides.

u already know
u already know

He's not a fraud...just needs to get back on track of souls and leave the worldly crap alone. What r u doing inorder to critique him or anyone else? I know the truth and what there about! No, not all of that ministry is perfect, but humans are not perfect

gophereid
gophereid

This guy came to my school when I was in high school with his band. He was an opinionated loser who spewed lies and then tried to sell his merchandise to us. The teachers and administration publicly apologized afterward and said that he lied about the type of material that he would present to the student body. This guy is all about making money, and does not care about anyone or anything else. His "street team" was in my hometown months later, offering to pump peoples' gas for tips, claiming that "they do things to help the schools." I told that team member that I know exactly what they do in schools, and that it helps no one but themselves. Do NOT give money to his monster.

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

Most religions these days are just covers for weird sex cults. When the Pope was a Cardinal he issued a secret Vatican edict to Catholic bishops instructing them to put the Church's interests ahead of child safety. For doing that evil he was promoted to Pope so you can tell that's a sex cult. Scientology was founded by a pedophile who died living on a boat with underage boys. Mormonism was founded so a con artist could marry a ton of chicks. That's why most religions are such a joke these days, they are run by weirdos who are obsessed with stopping other people from having the freakiest weirdest fucking sex secrets. Just ask Marcus Bachmann.

Massdogg77
Massdogg77

Also, why would you say or assume something as hideous as that? It is sickening seeing someone who is obviously intelligent enough to post a comment, come up with something that vulgar. Common sense Fremonupton, use a little proper judgement.

Massdogg77
Massdogg77

Just a question , which store? And when?

it's me too
it's me too

Because not all Christians would speak out in such a manner. I know your answer would be- what Christians shouldn't speak the truth? Yes we should. We should not deny the bible. But also remember it is not our responsibility to judge or to out to death someone who comits a sin. We would all be dead. But because of grace, we are not. We should speak the truth, so when asking people for money be honest by telling people what the money is used for, don't hide behide different names, change church names it organizations names. Deceitful. And don't lie when you go to a school about what you will be speaking about. If God wants you there, He'll get you there by his power, not yours and not by lying.

Massdogg77
Massdogg77

Just a question. Are you a Christian? You sure know how to tell people who Christ is. The only problem is, you don't have any biblical reference to back it up. This was debunked a year or more ago, and you still proclaim that his supposed statements are true. You are right. Jesus did go to the lowly, and the sinner. But for what purpose? To convert them to His Father. He didn't let them leave the same way. They followed His ways, according to the 10 commandments, and several times he told people this reference "go and sin no more". Love is truth. 1 john 3:18. That's the way Christ loved, and also the reason they crucified him.

it's me too
it's me too

So pretty much whatever it takes to say you prevent suicide and get money. Twisting words up, with no real action to back up your "suicide prevention" claims. Maybe they attempt to prevent, but are they?

James
James

These guys suck off the government teat, against all constitutional intention, then proselytize hate. It's foul, and it's a racket. So yeah, humans are not perfect. Others perpetrate fraud in the name of religion, and some stupid people always follow them right on down the road. There's a reason the bible had stories about the Pharisees, people.

Fremontupton
Fremontupton

I calls 'em like I sees 'em. But don't YOU think it's a bit deceptive to ask for intel on the specifics of my experience, without revealing your interest in the replies? Don't get me wrong, I for myself do not think it immoral for you and your band to seek college-age men to have gay sex with. But the theme of deception, with the financial scam artistry, THAT is the immoral part. Now you have my common sense, and my proper judgement.

gophereid
gophereid

Massdogg77 plays bass for that shitty band.

where they do that at?
where they do that at?

You sound like you know them personally or have had a negative experience with the group?

it's me too
it's me too

It is a sin. But why be so hateful about it, saying they should die. Well, we all should because we all sin. Like I said no sin is worse than another. Grace. We admit our sins, come to God and hs shows us grace. We don't deserve it, bit he freely gives it to us. Other legit, truth speaking Christian organizations have not been able to come to schools and speak after you can run has been there. They've ruined it for all, so apparently they may have been around for years but they'll run out OS schools to lie too sooner or later. Oh wait, that's where the suicide prevention team comes to bag my groceries.

where they do that at?
where they do that at?

How are we judging anyone if the Bible says its wrong? God doesn't leave the decision up to us whether or not homosexuality is a sin, He already pronounced His judgement. I never knew that they changed their name to raise money, if that is true then that is wrong. Its apparent to me that God does want them there because they are still doing it regardless of all the opposition, they have been around for some years now.

James
James

Haha, right, you have to know each person individually to make correct judgements about their behavior. Articles based on recorded statements, transcripts, and public records should not be taken into account. To do so would be reasonable, and therefore violate the premises of American Christianist Thought.

Massdogg77
Massdogg77

Once again, notice your words. Evil hateful, vicious, stealing...... Where did you get that info? From Bradlee himself? Or from articles about Bradlee? You still claim to know what Christ stood for yet you have no scriptural knowledge of Him. As far as our current President, he is the one that said we are no longer a Christian Nation, but every other president acknowledged that. He put himself in that spot. To point out errors as you are trying to do to Bradlee is not hate, just correcting a situation. The only problem is, you can't try to fix something when it isn't broken.

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

That isn't the only bigoted thing Bradlee Dean has said. "Debunking" something implies it isn't true. It's true Bradlee said that. It's true Bradlee has a long history of saying hateful evil things about Muslims, gays, and liberals. He questioned the religion of the President of the United States of America on the floor of the Minnesota House. Bradlee is an awful, divisive person that doesn't spread love or anything else Christ stood for. Keep telling your lies and pretending Bradlee isn't a vicious hatemonger that lies about what his ministry is to steal money from taxpayers and public schools.

Massdogg77
Massdogg77

Have you read the statement on the website regarding thus issue? It is inconsistent with our message over 11 years of ministry. Did you listen to that particular radio show in its entirety? People take a statement, and blow it out of proportion, which had nothing to do with the big picture. It's sin before God that Sons of Liberty(radio show) exposes. It doesn't matter if you like the message or not, just don't lie about it nor keep propping it up after it has been labeled a falsehood. That's all.

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

“Muslims are calling for the executions of homosexuals in America,” Dean said. “This just shows you they themselves are upholding the laws that are even in the Bible of the Judeo-Christian God, but they seem to be more moral than even the American Christians do, because these people are livid about enforcing their laws. They know homosexuality is an abomination.”

Here is a bible quote for you "you shall not bear false witness against your neighbour." Even I remember that one from Sunday school liar. How exactly is Bradlee's bigoted statement debunked? He said on the radio, people record that dumbass. By the way how many people is Bradlee converting to Christ? Looks like he takes a bunch of bigot idiots that already are into the whole Jesus thing and uses them to raise money to make himself rich. He does this by lying and tricking people. I would love to hear you explain to a starving child about how important it is for Bradlee to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on making sure gay people are discriminated against. I can't pull bible verses out of my ass but even I know that Christ would be more about starving children than starting a shitty band that sings about gay people.

The Reality Based Dave
The Reality Based Dave

Mastersdog- "Thus article proves that its not about truth, but an agenda. " And the bible is a book of truth, & not an agenda?* You're funny!

*rhetorical question. Don't bother answering.

Ben There Done That
Ben There Done That

Who's pointing the finger? I know at least 10 people who have been scarred from this man's ministry, bad doctrines = bad practice. Just provoking thought

it's me too
it's me too

No one said Christians should our about the truth. But Christ would never go out of his way to say hateful things. Christ calls us to speak the truth in love. Key word LOVE! Don't pick and chose the parts of the bible you want to speak about. True, we shouldn't be wishy washy but be strong in our faith and stand up for what's right but not to bash others. Christ won people over with love and the truth not commanding people be dead.

Massdogg77
Massdogg77

You know what's crazy bout this? Christ was call "beelzebub"(devil), because he went against the established religion of the day. Charles Surgeon once said: God will never send a man that doesn't trouble consciences. You are going to offend people for the truth. Most people don't have a problem with Christ, until the finger is pointed at them. Just provoking thought

it's me too
it's me too

I don't need to Google him. I know what he's about.

where they do that at?
where they do that at?

I find it hard to believe that they are coming by way of deceit. Google Bradlee Dean, and see what pops up, these schools do their homework, I would like to see the response of the whole, not just the ten students or 2 teachers who had a problem with them.

it's me too
it's me too

You said: " Are

people going to like

everything Christ said?" The prob is it's not Christ speaking at the schools. It's Bradlee coming in by way of deceit.

Massdogg77
Massdogg77

How can you interpret "Thou Shalt Not" any other way than what it says? He does love them... But in the truth. Read 1john 3:18. He loved us enough to die for us, and we in turn disobey? How does that make sense? Jesus said " He that says'I know Him (Christ)' and keeps not His commandments is a list and the truth is not in him. 1 john 2. He only forgives those who repent from their sins. A person that doesn't change from their old ways obviously isn't repentant. I guaranty this, if Brad was preaching the gospel you are talking about, he would benefit more financially than the message he is preaching now. No one wants to be hated or mocked, it hit comes with the territory. Also, use the Bible to back up your belief on who Christ is, not just opinion.

gophereid
gophereid

It is clear to me that you and I have very different interpretations of the Bible and what spreading God's love means. I believe that God loves homosexuals, people with addictions, Bradlee Dean and yourself, everyone. I also think that Bradlee Dean is a mislead individual, and I cannot support his efforts. I think what he is doing has less to do with spreading the word of God and helping people, and has more to do with taking advantage of people for his own financial gain.

Massdogg77
Massdogg77

First, what hate and lies? If I speak out about a certain lifestyle, how is that hate? If I speak against liars and how sinful it is, am I hating them? You say you like hymns, and don't have a problem with Christian groups, but why not ask why people hate God enough to where they spit in his face and blatantly sin and disgrace what His Son died for? Love warns people of things to come. God isn't wrong, man is. The only problem is, man thinks he can do it all by himself, and we only end up destroying ourselves with our decisions. Love is truth, that is why Christ was crucified.

gophereid
gophereid

No point other than that I think Junkyard Prophet is a shitty band and I thought you played bass for them. I see I was wrong about one of those things. I actually do not have a problem with Christian groups or Christian music...I have a problem with people who spread hate and lies under the guise of Christianity, and I hate bad music of all genres. I love listening to good Christian music; classic sacred hymnals are my absolute favorite. I have nothing to say about the journalism...I do not know by what means the author gathered the information. However, I identified many negative aspects of the article to have been true based on my own experiences.

Massdogg77
Massdogg77

Wrong again. I have store owners defend us because of the inconsistentcy of what the media reports. A little persecution comes, and you see who is real or fake. No different than on Christ's time. Listen, does it make sense that we have done 331 high school assemblies over a 10 year span, saying those things the media reports? And of those 'FEW' schools who did have a problem, it was 1-2 teachers or students creating the problem. Are people going to like everything Christ said? No! Why do you think he was crucified? He was hated for exposing darkness and lies John 15: 20-25. Christ was hated by the ones he loved because of truth. God isn't the problem, man's sin towards God is. He just says "no" to what you say yes to.

Michelle Bachmann
Michelle Bachmann

You lie to store owners what your ministry is all about. You lie to school officials about the amount of religion in your school programs. Also, the only good rock bands in the world are the ones closely aligned with Satan. Aren't you familiar with the expression "sold my soul for rock and roll"? It's pretty much Rock&Roll 101.

Massdogg77
Massdogg77

Your point please? You might not like the band and the fact that we are a Christian group, but to flat out lie in article after article is irresponsible. Thus article proves that its not about truth, but an agenda. 75 percent of this article was taken almost verbatim from other sources. Journalism? Just tell people the truth. Not your bias. Oh, by the way, I sing for the band.

 
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