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11/26/2011 6:00:00 AM
It was a great event at the Staples Center. Anyone who thinks that they would go to a show like that for $2 and NOT hear a sales pitch for something else is an idiot. Of course there was a sales pitch, but in 10 hours of speakers, the sales pitch was less than 3 hours, AND the price for the follow up seminars (3 of them) = $99, $49, and $39. I went to the $49 and was really impressed by the content of what was taught in 3 days. THREE DAYS for $49?? and good content too.
Of course I knew there would be another pitch, and there was, and it was for a lot more money. And being a lawyer and RE broker, I could see that what was offered was worth the price. BUT if you didn't buy, you still got a wealth of information in the $49 three day seminar. I know I did.
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11/26/2011 5:54:00 AM
I went to the seminar also. I have been practicing law for almost 30 years and am also a licensed real estate broker. I did not hear a SINGLE thing that was not true and I have been involved in some level in every kind of deal they taught. Speedy is right on USE what they taught you it was good information.
There is a story about one of the robber barons charging a guy $1,000 for the advice to write down the top ten things that he needed to do each day. They guy balked when he found out what he got for his money and the robber baron told him, "You paid a lot for this advice, you would be stupid not to follow it."
It does not matter so much the price you paid, it does matter if the advice was good AND if you are smart enough to follow it.
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10/27/2011 6:12:00 PM
For all my business minded, aspiring friends check out this event for Monday at Staples center. Looks radical. Everybody could use a little extra motivation.
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10/25/2011 2:44:00 PM
I didn't think it was a religious event, it is thrown in, but really it's a frenzy. I did go to one a few years ago and almost fell in. They show you a number of gimmicks, so the 'one' you pick, "isn't so bad" until you attend THAT event, then realize it's all just a scam. Sad, so many people who can't really afford this are going year after year and spending money they can't afford. Interestingly, I noticed at about half way through, a good number leaving. So, many who attend aren't dumb, but too many that are left, are.
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09/29/2011 7:22:00 AM
Religious people are easily duped. 'Nuff said.
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NintendoLegend 09/28/2011 3:14:00 PM
I want the lists of attendees so I can scam them all. If so many professional business people are actually that gullible, that's incredible, and a bad sign for any economy.
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SpeedyAppraiser22 09/07/2011 12:22:00 AM
So let me get this straight, Kathy... You attended Get Motivated, purchased $30,000 in training and coaching, haven't completed all of the training you purchased though you've had an entire year and a half to do so, and haven't bothered to start investing. And somehow this is Get Motivated's fault? I attended Get Motivated, went to the 3 day James Smith event, and have been investing now for 18 months. I quit my job last year, and all I do now is real estate. Maybe you need to "get motivated" and actually implement the strategies you were taught? Because if you went to college, shelled out $20K per year, graduated, and didn't bother to do anything with your knowlege, it wouldn't be the college's fault. Spending $30K for knowledge doesn't amount to anything if you are too lazy to apply it.
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Kathyjcorp 08/31/2011 3:55:00 PM
I attended the Get Motivated in Spokane, WA. They say there is no fool like an old fool! I purchased their plans for a total of $30,000. Now I'm told I'm finished with the coaching with the real estate but can still attend the Boot Camps. Which are held in other parts of the country and cost a great deal to attend. I have not yet completed a deal with real estate nor have I had my coaching for options. This has been just a year ago this month I got started. If I can keep just one person from making this mistake of believing their promises I would do anything. IT IS A SCAM!! Kathy in Washington State
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Kim 08/13/2011 3:37:00 PM
glad i read this b4 wasting my time & money ,kim in cerolina
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08/10/2011 5:43:00 PM
I think WiseOldDog is trying to sell you something.
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WiseOldDog 08/09/2011 10:56:00 PM
It is NOT a scam. It was great. When I attended in Seattle, there was a group of teachers and students from a private school. Although I loved it, I think the students even got more out of it.
Where else could they get they see a "concert" with Bill Cosby, Steve Forbes, Rudy Guiliani, Laura Bush, and much more for a few dollars?
Your principal is a wise one. Go, and have fun.
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WiseOldDog 08/09/2011 10:50:00 PM
I attended not only the Get Motivated seminar in Seattle, but the follow-up 3-day seminars (for $49), and LOVED them. Sure, they were doing some selling, but they were also providing so much information that I filled about 30 pages with notes. And I was entertained the entire time.
I did not buy any of their programs (which were never a hard-sell). So I am "out" $55, but I got 4 wonderful days, lots of entertainment, and tons of information.
I recommend this program to everyone I meet. It was fantastic!
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#1Teacher 08/09/2011 7:51:00 PM
I'm a teacher in Greenville, SC and unfortunately, the principal has decided that the entire teaching staff be required to attend this event to "kick off" the new school year. I'm not looking forward to it! This sounds like a scam and I really don't want to be a participant.
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07/18/2011 9:36:00 AM
People with stinkin thinkin write defeatist articles like this and if all the speakers were the likes of a Bill Maher and John Stewart this article would read quit differently I’m sure.
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Reuben 07/17/2011 7:36:00 PM
Well, there is a Get Motivated Seminar in Greenville on August 10, 2011. Just by whim I did a little research. Six of the seven speakers are Freemasons...isn't that strange?
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Dlwz3 06/01/2011 4:13:00 PM
The naysayers are the ones that really need the 'get motivated' seminars at any price.
You can find fraud in anything if you look hard enough. What speakers all tell you is they provide the direction but if you are not motivated to learn and take action, then to you, it is 'false advertising'. I think negative attracts negative and the unhappy ones just want someone to 'do it all for them'.
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tjs 05/24/2011 12:49:00 AM
I agree...liars, cheats and con artists!! I thought the seminar would be a great learning experience but unfortuately due to my work schedule I was unable to attend any of the seminars. they told everyone at the seminar that your account would only be charged if you attend any one of the sessions. Well guess what, yup--that's right, they charged my account anyway.
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04/12/2011 9:55:00 PM
I assumed that Get Motivated would want more than the $2 entrance fee from me. Even if the speakers and staff were all volunteering, they couldn't put it on that cheaply. I wish they had enough integrity to be upfront about that rather than claiming you can safely leave your checkbook at home.
I attended Get Motivated and signed up for the 3-day James Smith seminar, which I attended last week. I was completely blown away. I have 13 pages of notes, and have already made 4 offers on investment properties using the knowledge I gained. Not to mention, the entertainment value was immense. I will be taking every opportunity to work with the James Smith company in the future.
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Whiners suck 03/04/2011 3:02:00 PM
What did the price go up to??? 4.95 or 19 for a whole group? Is it that serious? I mean come on...do you have any idea how much it would cost you to see these ppl live in any other venue. What a whiner.
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youngbunnyful 03/03/2011 12:53:00 PM
Go to the seminar to get motivated. If you can afford the other seminars, then do them too. They teach you to learn from successful people. I visited the Get Motivated seminar with my office gang. I invested in 2 of their continuing seminars. So far, it is the best thing I have ever done for my family. What do you have to lose but $2-10?
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Cheryl 02/18/2011 5:31:00 PM
I received a flyer in the mail yesterday from Get Morivated Seminars, Inc. for an upcoming seminar in San Diego and offering a promotional price per ticket. When I called this morning to reserve tickets they stated that the promotional price was a limited time offer and had expired. Nowhere on the brochure does it say it is a limited time offer. But, that aside, I just received it in the mail yesterday at 4:00 pm! I plan on filing a complaint with the FCC (for use of the USPS to commit fraud) and the Better Business Bureau (for false advertising).
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RaymondCS 12/01/2010 1:39:00 AM
UNDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 2009
The James Smith Real Estate Organization Lawsuit, Robert Paisola Reports
http://seminarwatchlawsuit.blogspot.com/2009/11/james-smith-real-estate-organization.html
To our friends and clients around the world:
Many of you have contacted our offices asking about the current lawsuit that has been filed by people who state that they are "Victims" of The James Smith Real Estate Organization. As members of the national media, we are compelled to provide you with the raw information that is available on this site and many others. In the interest of justice we present the original filing that was filed in the Third Judicial District Court in Salt Lake City, Utah.
We are going to provide you with the legal filing data, however, we are not going to comment on the current legal proceedings because of a confidentiality agreement that we have with this company. Please understand that we know and have known many of the defendants in this lawsuit, and as a media organization, it is our obligation to simply provide you, the American Public, with the facts of the current case.
http://seminarwatchlawsuit.blogspot.com/2009/11/james-smith-real-estate-organization.html
James Smith Company's instructor/ motivational speaker / main M5 presenter Jolee Tibbitts is sentenced to prison for investment scams and stealing innocent students money. 4 years in Federal prison.
Utah woman sentenced in $1.2 million real estate scheme
BY AARON FALK
The Salt Lake Tribune
Published Oct 27, 2010 05:13PM
Updated Nov 1, 2010 03:45PM
Tibbitts’ attorney, Daphne Oberg, said Tibbitts worked menial jobs until she was suddenly promoted to a real-estate training and motivational speaking job that quintupled her income. Later, when hard times hit, Oberg said Tibbitts’ life spun out of control.
“Theft is one thing. Lying is another. You did them both, ” said Judge Dee Benson, of the U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City. “And you did it for an awfully long time.”
We were also offered an opportunity at M5 workshop, a profitable property ... The fraud committed by NRI - James Smith, Jolee Tibbitts, ...
www.complaintsboard.com/.../james-smith-nri-darel-snyder-psi-group-
Dec 7, 2007 ... Jolee Tibbitts, JMT Concepts Jolee Tibbitts-Took money for an investment ... My husband and I attended an NRI M5 in August 2006 in Salt Lake City, UT. ... of a class action civil suit against Jolee, NRI, and James Smith. ...
Mar 25, 2009 ... The fraud committed by NRI – James Smith, Jolee Tibbitts, Roger Williams, Aaron Asmond has personally effected me. I paid 20K to learn how ...xenophilius.wordpress.com/.../phelps-speaking-live-arco-arena/
Jolee Tibbitts worked and traveled WITH JAMES SMITH COMPANY till 2008. Scammed many people. MANY COMPLAINTS involving Jolee Tibbitts and James Smith on Complaints Board. Investors and people considering business with these people and the company BEWARE. The court has ordered that Jolee Tibbitts pay BACK the victims at the rate of $250 a month. And the total is $1.2million!! So WHAT are the chances of getting your money back even if a lawsuit goes in your favor?
A lot of lying and cunning is involved in this company. James Smith SEEMS very honest and sincere. But is what he SAYS really what he DOES? HAVE YOU SEEN HIM DO AND FOLLOW THROUGH AND THE RESULTS? ASK people before you make decisions. WHAT IS THE TRUTH? ARE THEY ALL HONEST OR DO THEY PLAY WITH EMOTIONS AND TRUST? People file lawsuits against this man and his company. Why? Ask them. Do NOT rely on the Customer Advisory Board that has some women calling James Smith MY MENTOR and MY GURU. Even their contact information is NOT there. WHY? Because of SPECIAL FRIENDSHIP? Can you TRUST people like that in what they say about James Smith. If he is SO HONEST then why ALL the other truths that are PROVED. Some examples below.
James Smith's mistress Kari Michaelsen ALSO worked menial job in road shows for James Smith Company in 2008-20009 till she suddenly became an emcee of M5 and began to teach a Leadership Mastery class with James Smith!!! Till James Smith's wife demanded she be fired. But then James Smith got her a job with Get Motivated Seminars so they could travel together regularly and LOTS of OTHER times too. AND THEY DO!!
FACT: Even now James Smith is a MARRIED MAN and is WORKING ON HIS MARRIAGE (according to him AND his CEO Aaron Osmond, see below for statement by Aaron Osmond) but has at least two mistresses. Let him PROVE otherwise.Almost EVERY NIGHT HE IS WITH ONE or BOTH.
Dallas Get motivated BOTH Kari Michaelsen AND the the new one. Indianapolis GM Kari 3 nights. Washington DC Financial Success the New one 3 nights. Atlanta GM Kari 3 nights. 3rd November was Kari's 49th birthday. Eve of birthday and breakfast with Kari and then to the New one that same night for 4 nights. Then Kari.. then new one..then Kari.. etc. etc.
Kari is the old regular one who abandons her little son Nickolas ALL the time ( his godfather and "UNCLE" is James Smith) to fly to James Smith when the NEW BEAUTIFUL RICH FAMOUS one cannot be available since she is in high demand and very busy being successful. She is like a super model. See her amazing photos on facebook. And then see Kari Michaelsen's more than a decade old and VERY HEAVILY paint brush touched up picture. Looks like a painting not a photo. And also her latest old and PAST IT photos from Get Motivated. Getting married at 42, having a son, getting divorced, having affairs, and waiting in hotel rooms for James Smith to come when he wants is something she does ALL the time and has not helped those looks at all.
But Kari Michaelsen does a bikini circus act on a high rope(youtube.com) real well. Also a strip tease (Saturday the 14th). James Smith should know those well from his PRIVATE shows with her. All the company needs to do is put a high rope and give her a bikini. All the 7 minute breaks will be fun for free. She'll do the splits up high in the skimpy 'nothing' like she does in the circus act, or the strip tease.Maybe Get Motivated should have her throw in those acts too. All in the $4.99 / ticket price.
At least the new mistress has HUGE following, BEAUTY, and is SO rich she can give James Smith the best life and luxury he can dream of. And she will not have to perform like a circus monkey either. She moves HUGE crowds by actually TALKING not just screaming names in a high pitched nasal voice with the Ladieeeees and Gentlemeeeeen that sounds like Fran Fine from the Nanny which is ALL Kari Michaelsen can do.No wait. She can also have NO morals, lie, be cunning and cheat. Also forget her son Nickolas at home all the time to be with James Smith.
Alibis and classes / M5 / Group mentoring / Seminars are cover ups for EVERY day with women who are NOT the WIFE James Smith is WORKING on his marriage with. Holiday season is here and that means LOTS of time. But what about alibis? Who will lie this time?
James Smith, Kari Michaelsen, Aaron Osmond, Ken Hartley, Kevin Reynolds. These people lie and should be held accountable. Example of lies by James Smith, Company CEO Aaron Osmond and student / friend /supporter Ken Hartley, instructor and partner Kevin Reynolds.
Read the CONTRADICTING statements THEY have made themselves. They SAY IT ALL. Can you believe these people?
Cheats! Dishonesty all around!They LIE LIE LIE!
PROOF:
James Smith goes on TRIPS with his mistresses and then has his INNOCENT son or employees lie and say he was with THEM instead:
1) A trip with a mistress Kari Michaelsen in Hawaii, Honolulu from January 1, 2010 8PM to January 3, 2010 11AM ( Kari left for LAX), James left for Orlando at 6PM and the cover story was being with a son and daughter-in-law in Lanai.
2) A trip with ANOTHER mistress to St.Croix
Get Motivated Seminars Complaints - Online scam
June 2010 ... Other Qivana members who were IN St.Thomas and can vouch for the fact... James Smith being with **** **** in St.Croix, Virgin Islands ...
www.complaintsboard.com/.../get-motivated-seminars-c156138
Kevin Reynolds ( the foreclosure and Real Estate 3 day class instructor) first wrote that James Smith was with HIM on 6/17and later wrote that James was with him on St.Thomas for a Qivana event from 6/13 to 6/18 TO COVER UP FOR A TRIP WITH A MISTRESS.
FALSE. James Smith went to St.Thomas only on 6/17 and left on 6/18 for Utah M5 in Salt Lake City.The REST of the time he was on a TRIP with his mistress in St.Croix.
For TRUTH and confirmation of the above information contact:
Derek Hall, CEO Qivana
@ (801)-610-4600
HOW THEY LIE ABOUT KARI MICHAELSEN NOT being divorced and actually one of James Smith's mistresses
Get Motivated Seminars Comments - Online scam
... Did you KNOW that David Waldock officially DIVORCED Kari Michaelsen in 2009? ...
www.complaintsboard.com/.../get-motivated-seminars-c156138.html?sort...
Ken Hartley said
xenophilius.wordpress.com/.../phelps-speaking-live-arco-arena/
May 26, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Again, you’re making accusations as facts and you have none. Kari and David were not divorced in 2002. I know. I was at an event with them TOGETHER in 2009. I know them. They’re married. You’re wrong. Get your facts straight.
Aaron Osmond said
xenophilius.wordpress.com/.../phelps-speaking-live-arco-arena/
www.ww.complaintsboard.com/.../james-smith-real-estate-net-marketing-lc-c3195
May 28, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Cindy,
My name is Aaron Osmond. I am the CEO of the James Smith Company. James is both my business partner and close friend. I am also a friend and professional associate of Kari Michaelson.
3) In May of 2008, I personally invited Kari and David (her husband) to share their testimonials as part of our new success story infomercial that we were filming that year.
4) At that time, Kari and David (as a married couple) provided evidence of their real estate success with documentation as part of that testimonial process.
5) The testimonial video now showing on http://www.jamessmithcompany.com/ is the exact same testimonial that we filmed in 2008.
10) James and Loree Smith are still married today. I know and respect them both. They are working through their own challenges and deserve privacy and respect when it comes to their marriage.
11) Kari Michaeson is a colleague, friend, and professional working at many of the same events at James. That is all. Nothing more. There is no story, no drama, no deception.
FALSE. IT IS NOT. THERE ARE 2 INFOMERCIALS / testimonials WITH KARI. ONE HAS Kari Michaelsen ( looking like a hippie) and her EX HUSBAND DAVID WALDOCK ALSO. THAT is the earlier one from 2008. The NEW one says Kari Waldock but was filmed AFTER she got divorced. She is wearing the brown sparkly business suit she bought to emcee the June 2009 M5 in Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas. The infomercial is taped AFTER that M5 and uploaded on April 12, 2010. ALSO the CEO Aaron Osmond was told by the ex husband David Waldock himself on the phone. But he (Aaron Osmond) did NOT give that information.
James Smith Real Estate / Net Marketing, LC Complaints - Celebrity
... Kari Michaelsen OR Kari Michaelson OR Kari Waldock and James ... If you WERE in Arizona with James Smith for business it does NOT matter. ...
www.ww.complaintsboard.com/.../james-smith-real-estate-net-marketing-lc-c3195.html?...
CandyJS June 24, 2010
Thank You Kari Michaelsen for EXPOSING yourself well and truly for ALL to see.
David Waldock DIVORCED you in early 2009. You are a single woman! California divorce records are public information anyone can get for $15. You are not very intelligent, are you? School drop out? Next, David Waldock HIMSELF told Aaron Osmond, CEO of James Smith Company this truth about having divorced you in a phone conversation in April, 2010 when Aaron Osmond called him to ask for some help and advice. David Waldock did NOT want to help / work / partner with James Smith Company and is NOT your husband.
Ken Hartley said
xenophilius.wordpress.com/.../phelps-speaking-live-arco-arena/
www.ww.complaintsboard.com/.../james-smith-real-estate-net-marketing-lc-c3195
June 2, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Now here are some facts: I am also a student of James Smith. I spent a lot of money investing in his educational system. I received instruction from James, his sons, and many other teachers with the James Smith Company.
Last of all, I am a pastor. That is what I do full time. I’m putting my integrity on the line by doing this post. I have nothing to gain by posting this reply other than the truth being known. The person doing these posts is lying. I’m telling you the truth. Those are the facts. Now decide for yourself.
Ken Hartley
James Smith Real Estate / Net Marketing, LC Complaints - Celebrity ...
... AND JAMES SMITH AND KARI MICHAELSEN ARE IN ARIZONA RIGHT NOW. YES, for June 23rd and June 24th, 2010 ... 45 days ago by Michel Charbonnier, +2 Votes ...
www.ww.complaintsboard.com/.../james-smith-real-estate-net-marketing-lc-c3195
Ken Hartley
www.ww.complaintsboard.com/.../james-smith-real-estate-net-marketing-lc-c3195.htm
June 25, 2010
They are nothing more than a jealous, bitter person. Kari was NOT in Arizona. She was in Los Angeles. I KNOW she was. I talked to her. I know Kari. Also, Kari didn't do that post. DAVID DID. I know. You care so little about truth. Reread Kari’s post. She NEVER said she was married in that post. You know Kari and David are a divorced couple working diligently to co-parent their child. (not that any of this is your business) You only care about people thinking you are right. You are a classic narcissist and insist on imposing your own perfectionistic tendencies on everyone else that you, yourself, are not willing to keep. It's absolutely astounding that you would accuse Kari of posting under a different name when you KNOW that's what YOU'RE doing.
Do we need more proof when we have the company's supporter and a 'pastor' giving two OPPOSITE facts???.. Kari Michaelsen Not Divorced ( May 26, 2010) and Kari is divorced and co parenting (June 25, 2010).
And the divorce was finalized and recorded in 2009 in California.
A divorce is a legal public proceeding. If these people LIE SO MUCH about something that is a public proven FACT just to cover a lie about a divorce and affairs, then what about their honesty in financial and personal matters that are based ONLY on FAITH?? Beware and be careful. Do not lose money and sleep for a lifetime.Read about Jolee Tibbitts victims to get a picture of what might be many other trusting people. Know what you are doing. CAVEAT EMPTOR. Let the buyer beware!
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RGW 11/20/2010 12:11:00 AM
Get Motivated Seminar's Real Estate Course; James Smith Company
James Smith Company's instructor/ motivational speaker / main M5 presenter Jolee Tibbitts is sentenced to prison for investment scams and stealing innocent students money. 4 years in Federal prison.
Utah woman sentenced in $1.2 million real estate scheme
BY AARON FALK
The Salt Lake Tribune
Published Oct 27, 2010 05:13PM
Updated Nov 1, 2010 03:45PM
Tibbitts’ attorney, Daphne Oberg, said Tibbitts worked menial jobs until she was suddenly promoted to a real-estate training and motivational speaking job that quintupled her income. Later, when hard times hit, Oberg said Tibbitts’ life spun out of control.
“Theft is one thing. Lying is another. You did them both,” said Judge Dee Benson, of the U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City. “And you did it for an awfully long time.”
We were also offered an opportunity at M5 workshop, a profitable property ..... The fraud committed by NRI - James Smith, Jolee Tibbitts, ...
www.complaintsboard.com/.../james-smith-nri-darel-snyder-psi-group-
Dec 7, 2007 ... Jolee Tibbitts, JMT Concepts Jolee Tibbitts-Took money for an investment ... My husband and I attended an NRI M5 in August 2006 in Salt Lake City, UT. ... of a class action civil suit against Jolee, NRI, and James Smith. ...
Mar 25, 2009 ... The fraud committed by NRI – James Smith, Jolee Tibbitts, Roger Williams, Aaron Asmond has personally effected me. I paid 20K to learn how ...xenophilius.wordpress.com/.../phelps-speaking-live-arco-arena/
Jolee Tibbitts worked and traveled WITH JAMES SMITH COMPANY till 2008. Scammed many people. MANY COMPLAINTS involving Jolee Tibbitts and James Smith on Complaints Board. Investors and people considering business with these people and the company BEWARE. The court has ordered that Jolee Tibbitts pay BACK the victims at the rate of $250 a month. And the total is $1.2million!! So WHAT are the chances of getting your money back even if a lawsuit goes in your favor?
A lot of lying and cunning is involved in this company. James Smith SEEMS very honest and sincere. But is what he SAYS really what he DOES? HAVE YOU SEEN HIM DO AND FOLLOW THROUGH AND THE RESULTS? ASK people before you make decisions. WHAT IS THE TRUTH? ARE THEY ALL HONEST OR DO THEY PLAY WITH EMOTIONS AND TRUST? People file lawsuits against this man and his company. Why? Ask them. Do NOT rely on the Customer Advisory Board that has some women calling James Smith MY MENTOR and MY GURU. Even their contact information is NOT there. WHY? Because of SPECIAL FRIENDSHIP? Can you TRUST people like that in what they say about James Smith. If he is SO HONEST then why ALL the other truths that are PROVED. Some examples below.
James Smith's mistress Kari Michaelsen ALSO worked menial job in road shows for James Smith Company in 2008-20009 till she suddenly became an emcee of M5 and began to teach a Leadership Mastery class with James Smith!!! Till James Smith's wife demanded she be fired. But then James Smith got her a job with Get Motivated Seminars so they could travel together regularly and LOTS of OTHER times too. AND THEY DO!!
FACT: Even now James Smith is a MARRIED MAN and is WORKING ON HIS MARRIAGE (according to him AND his CEO Aaron Osmond, see below for statement by Aaron Osmond) but has at least two mistresses. Let him PROVE otherwise.Almost EVERY NIGHT HE IS WITH ONE or BOTH.
Dallas Get motivated BOTH Kari Michaelsen AND the the new one. Indianapolis GM Kari 3 nights. Washington DC Financial Success the New one 3 nights. Atlanta GM Kari 3 nights. 3rd November was Kari's 49th birthday. Eve of birthday and breakfast with Kari and then to the New one that same night for 4 nights. Then Kari.. then new one..then Kari.. etc. etc.
Kari is the old regular one who abandons her little son Nickolas ALL the time ( his godfather and "UNCLE" is James Smith) to fly to James Smith when the NEW BEAUTIFUL RICH FAMOUS one cannot be available since she is in high demand and very busy being successful. She is like a super model. See her amazing photos on facebook. And then see Kari Michaelsen's more than a decade old and VERY HEAVILY paint brush touched up picture. Looks like a painting not a photo. And also her latest old and PAST IT photos from Get Motivated. Getting married at 42, having a son, getting divorced, having affairs, and waiting in hotel rooms for James Smith to come when he wants is something she does ALL the time and has not helped those looks at all.
But Kari Michaelsen does a bikini circus act on a high rope(youtube.com) real well. Also a strip tease (Saturday the 14th). James Smith should know those well from his PRIVATE shows with her. All the company needs to do is put a high rope and give her a bikini. All the 7 minute breaks will be fun for free. She'll do the splits up high in the skimpy 'nothing' like she does in the circus act, or the strip tease.Maybe Get Motivated should have her throw in those acts too. All in the $4.99 / ticket price.
At least the new mistress has HUGE following, BEAUTY, and is SO rich she can give James Smith the best life and luxury he can dream of. And she will not have to perform like a circus monkey either. She moves HUGE crowds by actually TALKING not just screaming names in a high pitched nasal voice with the Ladieeeees and Gentlemeeeeen that sounds like Fran Fine from the Nanny which is ALL Kari Michaelsen can do.No wait. She can also have NO morals, lie, be cunning and cheat. Also forget her son Nickolas at home all the time to be with James Smith.
Alibis and classes / M5 / Group mentoring / Seminars are cover ups for EVERY day with women who are NOT the WIFE James Smith is WORKING on his marriage with. Holiday season is here and that means LOTS of time. But what about alibis? Who will lie this time?
James Smith, Kari Michaelsen, Aaron Osmond, Ken Hartley, Kevin Reynolds. These people lie and should be held accountable. Example of lies by James Smith, Company CEO Aaron Osmond and student / friend /supporter Ken Hartley, instructor and partner Kevin Reynolds.
Read the CONTRADICTING statements THEY have made themselves. They SAY IT ALL. Can you believe these people?
Cheats! Dishonesty all around!They LIE LIE LIE!
PROOF:
James Smith goes on TRIPS with his mistresses and then has his INNOCENT son or employees lie and say he was with THEM instead:
1) A trip with a mistress Kari Michaelsen in Hawaii, Honolulu from January 1, 2010 8PM to January 3, 2010 11AM ( Kari left for LAX), James left for Orlando at 6PM and the cover story was being with a son and daughter-in-law in Lanai.
2) A trip with ANOTHER mistress to St.Croix
Get Motivated Seminars Complaints - Online scam
June 2010 ... Other Qivana members who were IN St.Thomas and can vouch for the fact... James Smith being with **** **** in St.Croix, Virgin Islands ...
www.complaintsboard.com/.../get-motivated-seminars-c156138
Kevin Reynolds ( the foreclosure and Real Estate 3 day class instructor) first wrote that James Smith was with HIM on 6/17and later wrote that James was with him on St.Thomas for a Qivana event from 6/13 to 6/18 TO COVER UP FOR A TRIP WITH A MISTRESS.
FALSE. James Smith went to St.Thomas only on 6/17 and left on 6/18 for Utah M5 in Salt Lake City.The REST of the time he was on a TRIP with his mistress in St.Croix.
For TRUTH and confirmation of the above information contact:
Derek Hall , CEO Qivana
@ (801)-610-4600
HOW THEY LIE ABOUT KARI MICHAELSEN NOT being divorced and actually one of James Smith's mistresses
Get Motivated Seminars Comments - Online scam
.... Did you KNOW that David Waldock officially DIVORCED Kari Michaelsen in 2009? ...
www.complaintsboard.com/.../get-motivated-seminars-c156138.html?sort...
Ken Hartley said
xenophilius.wordpress.com/.../phelps-speaking-live-arco-arena/
May 26, 2010 at 12:43 pm
Again, you’re making accusations as facts and you have none. Kari and David were not divorced in 2002. I know. I was at an event with them TOGETHER in 2009. I know them. They’re married. You’re wrong. Get your facts straight.
Aaron Osmond said
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www.ww.complaintsboard.com/.../james-smith-real-estate-net-marketing-lc-c3195
May 28, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Cindy,
My name is Aaron Osmond. I am the CEO of the James Smith Company. James is both my business partner and close friend. I am also a friend and professional associate of Kari Michaelson.
3) In May of 2008, I personally invited Kari and David (her husband) to share their testimonials as part of our new success story infomercial that we were filming that year.
4) At that time, Kari and David (as a married couple) provided evidence of their real estate success with documentation as part of that testimonial process.
5) The testimonial video now showing on http://www.jamessmithcompany.com/ is the exact same testimonial that we filmed in 2008.
10) James and Loree Smith are still married today. I know and respect them both. They are working through their own challenges and deserve privacy and respect when it comes to their marriage.
11) Kari Michaeson is a colleague, friend, and professional working at many of the same events at James. That is all. Nothing more. There is no story, no drama, no deception.
FALSE. IT IS NOT. THERE ARE 2 INFOMERCIALS / testimonials WITH KARI. ONE HAS Kari Michaelsen ( looking like a hippie) and her EX HUSBAND DAVID WALDOCK ALSO. THAT is the earlier one from 2008. The NEW one says Kari Waldock but was filmed AFTER she got divorced. She is wearing the brown sparkly business suit she bought to emcee the June 2009 M5 in Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas. The infomercial is taped AFTER that M5 and uploaded on April 12, 2010. ALSO the CEO Aaron Osmond was told by the ex husband David Waldock himself on the phone. But he (Aaron Osmond) did NOT give that information.
James Smith Real Estate / Net Marketing, LC Complaints - Celebrity
... Kari Michaelsen OR Kari Michaelson OR Kari Waldock and James ...... If you WERE in Arizona with James Smith for business it does NOT matter. ...
www.ww.complaintsboard.com/.../james-smith-real-estate-net-marketing-lc-c3195.html?...
CandyJS June 24, 2010
Thank You Kari Michaelsen for EXPOSING yourself well and truly for ALL to see.
David Waldock DIVORCED you in early 2009. You are a single woman! California divorce records are public information anyone can get for $15. You are not very intelligent, are you? School drop out? Next, David Waldock HIMSELF told Aaron Osmond, CEO of James Smith Company this truth about having divorced you in a phone conversation in April, 2010 when Aaron Osmond called him to ask for some help and advice. David Waldock did NOT want to help / work / partner with James Smith Company and is NOT your husband.
Ken Hartley said
xenophilius.wordpress.com/.../phelps-speaking-live-arco-arena/
www.ww.complaintsboard.com/.../james-smith-real-estate-net-marketing-lc-c3195
June 2, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Now here are some facts: I am also a student of James Smith. I spent a lot of money investing in his educational system. I received instruction from James, his sons, and many other teachers with the James Smith Company.
Last of all, I am a pastor. That is what I do full time. I’m putting my integrity on the line by doing this post. I have nothing to gain by posting this reply other than the truth being known. The person doing these posts is lying. I’m telling you the truth. Those are the facts. Now decide for yourself.
Ken Hartley
James Smith Real Estate / Net Marketing, LC Complaints - Celebrity ...
... AND JAMES SMITH AND KARI MICHAELSEN ARE IN ARIZONA RIGHT NOW. YES, for June 23rd and June 24th, 2010 ..... 45 days ago by Michel Charbonnier, +2 Votes ...
www.ww.complaintsboard.com/.../james-smith-real-estate-net-marketing-lc-c3195
Ken Hartley
www.ww.complaintsboard.com/.../james-smith-real-estate-net-marketing-lc-c3195.htm
June 25, 2010
They are nothing more than a jealous, bitter person. Kari was NOT in Arizona. She was in Los Angeles. I KNOW she was. I talked to her. I know Kari. Also, Kari didn't do that post. DAVID DID. I know. You care so little about truth. Reread Kari’s post. She NEVER said she was married in that post. You know Kari and David are a divorced couple working diligently to co-parent their child. (not that any of this is your business) You only care about people thinking you are right. You are a classic narcissist and insist on imposing your own perfectionistic tendencies on everyone else that you, yourself, are not willing to keep. It's absolutely astounding that you would accuse Kari of posting under a different name when you KNOW that's what YOU'RE doing.
Do we need more proof when we have the company's supporter and a 'pastor' giving two OPPOSITE facts???.. Kari Michaelsen Not Divorced ( May 26, 2010) and Kari is divorced and co parenting (June 25, 2010).
And the divorce was finalized and recorded in 2009 in California.
A divorce is a legal public proceeding. If these people LIE SO MUCH about something that is a public proven FACT just to cover a lie about a divorce and affairs, then what about their honesty in financial and personal matters that are based ONLY on FAITH?? Beware and be careful. Do not lose money and sleep for a lifetime.Read about Jolee Tibbitts victims to get a picture of what might be many other trusting people. Know what you are doing. CAVEAT EMPTOR. Let the buyer beware!
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Alex 11/18/2010 10:43:00 PM
James Smith Company / Get Motivates Seminars Scam News
Utah woman going to prison for scamming dozens, including widow ...
Oct 28, 2010 ... Professed real estate expert Jolee M. Tibbitts told Joyce ... about half from Utah — lost a total of $1.2 million in Tibbitts' scam, ...
www.deseretnews.com/.../Utah-woman-going-to-prison-for-scamming- dozens-including-widow-Iraq-solider.html - Cached
Robinson v. Tibbitts et al :: Justia Dockets & Filings
Dec 29, 2009 ... Tibbitts et al - Justia Federal Dockets and Filings. ... Torts to Land, - Tort Product Liability, - All Other Real Property ... Torts - Property, - Other Fraud, - Truth in Lending ... Under Equal Access to Justice, - Constitutionality of State Statutes ... Defendants: Jolee Tibbitts and JMT Concepts ...
dockets.justia.com/docket/utah/utdce/2:2009cv01149/73394/ - Cached
GOING GLOBAL - EAST MEETS WEST - ARTICLES OF INTEREST: Utah woman ...
Oct 28, 2010 ... Professed real estate expert Jolee M. Tibbitts told Joyce ... Tibbitts, of Herriman, earlier pleaded guilty to one count of wire fraud in ...
articlesofinterest-kelley.blogspot.com/.../utah-woman-going-to-prison-for- scamming.html - Cached
Utah woman going to prison for scamming dozens, including widow ...
Professed real estate expert Jolee M. Tibbitts told Joyce Robinson she owned. ... Finance, fraud and foreclosure. 2 days ago. In the book, 'Too Big to Fail' ...
topics.npr.org/article/03LybbF98Y3KX - Cached
Utah woman going to prison for scamming dozens, including widow ...
Oct 27, 2010 ... Professed real estate expert Jolee M. Tibbitts told Joyce Robinson ... CA - OCTOBER 11: Socialite Kathy Hilton and real estate broker Rick ...
mma.msg.com/article/03LybbF98Y3KX?q=Hawaii - Cached2009-11-16
by CNJ -1 Votes Utah
The fraud committed by NRI - James Smith, Jolee Tibbitts, Roger Williams, Aaron Asmond has personally effected me. I paid 20K to learn how to lose 200k cash. I am a single mom with 8th grade education. The properties were presented as GREAT investments and leveraged my home and bought each one out of trust and presentation. The Personal Coach processed all 11 of the Utah loans through his comapany. Broke confused and struggling...Jolee Tibitts offered to sell me a no-brainer home to flip from her sister to save me from the horrible situation, ("Stop the bleeding" they call it), only to find out, the house was not worth what I paid, but that NRI personal coach got it appraised and funded somehow. I reached out again to James Smith, Roger, Jolee who all stated I had bought horrible homes. Only to be offered another seminar. The embarrassment and the humiation of trusting the many years of expertise represented is my payment for investing in " guarentee satisfaction", "learning the ropes from the 20yrs experienced investment experts and coaches",
California
"I attended the M-5 in Salt Lake City; this was immediately after attending the three day.
We found ourselves exhausted at the end of 5 days, as I think most people are following an M-5; however we were totally committed to Real Estate investing. We were so touched by the “passion” that we saw in many of the presenters. The emotion and tears shared and shed by attendees and presenters was incredible. One of the most passionate presenters was a woman by the name of Jolee Tibbitts."
RE Success Group James Smith | RIP OFF REPORT: 249594
May 21, 2007 ... James Smith and the James Smith Real Estate Coaching Company strongly ... Use our complaint form to report a scam. Site problems? ... the pressured purchase involving Jolee Tibbitts, a then presenter for NRI). James' ...
www.ripoffreport.com/.../national-real-estate-investors-mxba2.htm - Cached -
James Smith Real Estate / Net Marketing, LC Complaints - Celebrity ...
We backed out of several deals and were told by Jolee Tibbitts one of their ...
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Jolee Tibbitts Sentenced to 4 years in Federal Prison.
WORKED MENIAL JOBS TILL JAMES SMITH HIRED HER:
"“Theft is one thing. Lying is another. You did them both, ” said Judge Dee Benson, of the U.S. District Court in Salt Lake City. “And you did it for an awfully long time.”
Tibbitts’ attorney, Daphne Oberg, said Tibbitts worked menial jobs until she was suddenly promoted to a real-estate training and motivational speaking job that quintupled her income. Later, when hard times hit, Oberg said Tibbitts’ life spun out of control.
“She kind of became involved in this fast-moving life, trying to keep up this public image, ” Oberg said. “But it wasn’t an image based in reality.”
During Wednesday’s sentencing, a handful of victims spoke of the medical problems, failed marriages and shortened retirements they said came as a result of their investments. "
Comment from
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50552405-76/tibbitts-court-estate-million.html.csp
rinsfo 2 weeks ago
"Tibbitts’ attorney, Daphne Oberg, said Tibbitts worked menial jobs until she was suddenly promoted to a real-estate training and motivational speaking job that quintupled her income."...
Promoted by James Smith and his org that's still very active in UT. Run, don't walk to the nearest exit when you come across these grifters."
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A 11/18/2010 7:22:00 AM
The speakers are great though!
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A 11/18/2010 7:07:00 AM
I worked in the Accounts Payable dept. for Get Motivated Seminars in Tampa. I cut checks for these speakers. The speakers make a fortune, not to mention personal planes. I collected money for Investools and the real estate packages. This company would charge people months, even years, after the agreement occured. Not an ethical move!
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Allan 10/19/2010 3:30:00 AM
These people at the very least are far less than honest. A big portion of the seminar is a giant ambush infomercial. If Loew denies this she has little or no integrity.
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Deeann 07/20/2010 7:27:00 AM
Peter and Tamara Lowe need to take down the Visual Globetrotting pictures on Google of their Palm Beach ocean front mansion they lost to the liens they owed the banks on it. Like in every other way, they are still deceiving the people into believing that they still own this home by making people think they STILL live there. Pandering....profitting off of the waakness or vices of others. THIS is how they all make their money. SHAME on them!
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eugoreht 06/07/2010 12:58:00 AM
So what happened with Mr. Canto? Just because his co-workers laughed at the product doesn't mean it wouldn't work. Did he try it and what happened when he did? Did he not try then? What happened? Lots of things have been laughed at but were actually good products. Not saying that this works, just that I'd like to hear the results, you know, solid proof and evidence not just a bunch of idiots saying it won't work. Details, people, details.
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Ashton Bryngelson 05/26/2010 10:19:00 AM
Wow, great investigative digging. Would be wonderful if 'The Press' could put together the pieces of our governments schemes! Both parties.