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Readers respond to "The Doctor Will Shock You Now"

A shocking story

Thank you for writing and publishing this very honest and excellent article on Ray Sandford and the issue of forced shock treatment ("The Doctor Will Shock You Now," 5/20/09.) It is not too common nowadays to see articles on this kind of topic describing things as they really are, rather than just quoting the viewpoints of some well-connected professionals. This article is a praiseworthy exception to that unfortunate state of affairs.

I think it is especially impressive that the article describes some of Ray's life history. This is important because one of the foundations of psychiatric abuse is to dehumanize people by reducing them to a label—a so-called "diagnosis"—and to ignore the significance of their individual life experiences. I think one of the most helpful things for people who have gone through difficult and troubling experiences is to find a way to put those experiences into some kind of perspective or context that allows them to make sense of what has happened. Unfortunately, the mental health system often does the exact opposite of this by denying the importance of context in a person's life. The result is that the system prevents people from ever being able to move beyond their initial difficulties and live a normal life—instead it turns them into lifelong patients.

It is one thing for people to freely choose this serious and risky treatment for themselves, but something completely different if it is forced on them by someone else. There is no downside for the professionals who force shock treatments on other people—they profit no matter what the outcome. Whatever negative consequences there may be are borne entirely by the person who has the treatment. One of the main reasons for Ray's forced shock treatments seems to have been so that a few individuals can make some money under the guise of providing "medical" care.

I think some of the people involved in forcing this treatment on Ray should be in prison—and in a truly just society I think they would be.

Kent Reedy
Reno, Nevada

My grandmother, who is almost 90 now, was given electroshock therapy, psychedelic drugs, and other forms of delicate care at the hands of doctors in the 1950s. Why? Because she suffered from depression. When I speak to her, she drifts in and out of the conversation, but mostly it's out. She was administered one too many acid trips, trips the administering physicians wouldn't take themselves. As for being injected with electricity, the gift that keeps on giving, isn't that delightful treatment supposed to be reserved for those being shuffled from death row to a hole in the ground on a barren patch of government land? To this day, my grandmother doesn't trust doctors and would rather chew her leg off, if she had the teeth, than pay a visit to the hospital. Isn't there a lab rat out there somewhere who would be willing to endure mind-bending voltage for a few seeds, a sip of water, and a spin in the wheel instead of donating the experiment to Ray Sandford? Because, as I understand it, Ray doesn't want the job. But I forgot, he doesn't have any human rights—those are reserved for prisoners of war, drug smugglers, and certain breeds of dogs.

Johnny Transistor
Boston, Massachusetts

It is very unfortunate that Matt Snyders chose to write such a sensationalistic article about electroconvulsive therapy. City Pages had an opportunity to educate readers about this successful technique but instead wound up with a one-sided and confusing article.

Although the exact reasons for its success in treating people with bipolar illness and depression are still a mystery, ECT is undoubtedly the most successful treatment for persons with certain mental illnesses. The fact is that the voltage used in an ECT treatment is approximately the same wattage used to light up a light bulb—not so scary. This applied electricity induces a grand mal seizure, which is the real event that somehow restores the proper biochemical balance to the person's brain.

As a college sophomore, I experienced a bout of serious clinical depression that left me unable to concentrate or to academically function. Within a month, I could barely get out of bed to take care of myself. I dropped out of school and moved back home with my parents. After six months of crushing depression and various medication attempts, I agreed to try ECT. Within one treatment I felt that my brain chemistry was restored. The depression had lifted. I woke up from that single treatment feeling full of energy, love, and excitement for the future. My physician recommended six total treatments, which I agreed to happily. I returned to my college within two weeks and resumed classes and fully resumed the rest of my life.

I am convinced that ECT saves lives; it certainly saved mine. It is a reliable and effective treatment for serious depression, bipolar illness, and schizophrenia. Please report the full story next time, and don't focus on the dramatics. Doing that only continues the stigma for ECT patients and turns the general public against this effective, painless, life-saving treatment.

Michele
Minneapolis

 
  • Robert B 11/05/2009 3:47:00 AM

    I have never heard of ECT before I read this article, and I suffer from a bipolar disorder, PTSD, Schzo-effective, and schzophrenia. I have suffered from my mental illnesses for the past 5 years. I am very surprised and shocked that ECT involves that much voltage to your cranium and brain. I think the people that adminster this kind of treatment should be locked up in a prison for a long time, and it should be against the law. Barack Obama should do something about it to make ECT against the law. I was thinking about moving to Minneapolis, Minnesota, but becuase I heard this story about Mr. Sanford, it gives me all the reason in the world not to move there to Minneapolis, Minnesota. That makes me scared to death to even go there on vacation or to live there. I just take prescription medications for my mental illnesses, and those have been very effective. I don't trust anybody, especially doctors and nurses.

  • Marjorie 08/03/2009 6:33:00 AM

    I am a mental health provider working in an agency for severe and persistent mentally ill people. I have seen clients come back to the center after having ECT. They are in a daze, they have a major headache,their balance is off and all they are able to do is sleep for the rest of the day. Their thinking is distorted. I once had 11 courses of ECT because my doctor did not know what else to do. I had many side effects to each of the medications I tried. I fought it for a long time and reluctantly agreed. It was horrible. That first time, I was nervous, scared, didn't know what I would be facing. There is so much going on around me, people talking, wires covering my head, people trying to explain what they were going to do but I didn't understand them, just wanting to get away from there. I woke in a "recovery room" and shortly thereafter I was helped off the bed and told it was okay to leave, see you in a couple of days. I could barely walk. My vision was blurry, I had a headache and I just wanted to close my eyes. I'm glad my husband was able to hold and lead me to the car. I have memory loss from the ECT and it's quite extensive and I believe it has left it's mark on my memory today with the damage it's left behind. Did it work? No. Many years later and a different doctor, things are just about the same. Please don't let anybody beforced into ECT until the doctors, lawyers and judges have had a session. Marjorie

  • Tasks Unlimited 06/06/2009 6:35:00 PM

    Why do these lawyers think that it's okay to exploit Ray? If they really wanted what was best for him, they would advocate for recovery that works for Ray. We work with people with mental illness and for some, electric shock works and for some, medication works. Regardless, we try to find the right thing for the person always preserving their dignity. Ray is a person and deserves hope of a normal life. There is a way. www.tasksunlimited.org

  • Helm Matthews 06/04/2009 11:48:00 PM

    Uh, Latifa, you wonder what country would allow involuntary shock treatment? The same country that allows involuntary death--the death penalty. The same country where in some counties people think our kids should be forced into involuntary silence--school prayer. The same country where many want MY money to fund school vouchers for private (usually religious)schools. So, I trust, you have the same indignation toward these issues as well.

  • Latifa Ring 06/03/2009 8:33:00 AM

    Michelle, what the heck are you trying to say? This man should have rights and he should have the right to say NO! If you want to got get some more ECT be my guest. Obviously it is your cup of tea. But it is not what this man wants. DO YOU KNOW WHY HE CANNOT REFUSE TREATMENT ??? It is because of the Adult Guardianship Laws in America that reduce a human being to a living creature with NO RIGHTS AT ALL ! This poor man is force to endure electric shocks because some guardian that owns his mind and his right to decide about every aspect of his life says he has to and the good old court goes along with it. What kind of Country allows involuntary electro shock therapy. What have we come to. I think I am going to be sick ! Sign our petition to stop Guardianship Abuse that is allowing this to happen. Sign our petition to stop Guardianship Abuse that is allowing this to happen. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-elder-abuse-and-guardianship-abuse-in-our-courts

 

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