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Sdahsdkj1 04/17/2011 2:09:00 PM
Great erotic story! I liked it a lot.
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aherr 03/02/2010 2:42:00 PM
You should have left your wife a long time ago. She sounds too slutty and shouldn't go to those parties with her co workers. She shouldn't be inviting her guy friend to the house. Sort of deserve it but feel sorry for her too. You need a better wife than that.
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A in AZ 08/27/2009 1:29:00 AM
I feel bad this happened to this woman. I too have been the victim of a date rape drug. I still have flashbacks today 13 years later of someone moving my clothes and taking pictures of me. I don't understand why animals who call themselves men do this to women.
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Allan 02/09/2009 4:33:00 AM
People, before you throw stone, LEARN A BIT ABOUT THIS. Read the wikipedia entries for chistsake, for "Child Sexual Abuse" and "Effects and aftermath of rape"
I've learned quite a lot about child sexual abuse and adult assault. The story is quite realistic. I'm glad it's being told. The effects of repeated child molestation are very deep, numerous and life long. It's a familiar tale sadly. A quarter of kids are molested and that's a fact that's documented.
The comments here are quite enlightening. They really show how these things occur. So many blame the victim, refuse to learn about the problem, look the other way so you don't have to deal with something ugly and steadfastly refuse to look at how we all contribute to a world where this happens.
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Mr Lynn 02/08/2009 9:02:00 AM
Very interesting story I find it very interesting as I was in a relationship where the former wife had also been abused by a father of a school mate and then had to experience what it meant to be a co-victim \ survivor of a spouse with PTSD.
I find it very interesting this story was also written at the same time they talk about Dead beat Dad. As I seen many relationships where women that have been abused by men on excreted their power over the men that are the father of their children when they no long want to live with the man that they co-created A NEW LIFE WITH.
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Mr Lynn 02/08/2009 8:55:00 AM
Very interesting story I find it very interesting as I was in a relationship where the former wife had also been abused by a father of a school mate and then had to experience what it meant to be a co-victim \ survivor of a spouse with PTSD.
I find it very interesting this story was also written at the same time they talk about Dead beat Dad. As I seen many relationships where women that have been abused by men on excreted their power over the men that are the father of their children when they no long want to live with the man that they co-created A NEW LIFE WITH.
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Mr Lynn 02/08/2009 8:53:00 AM
Very interesting story I find it very interesting as I was in a relationship where the former wife had also been abused by a father of a school mate and then had to experience what it meant to be a co-victim \ survivor of a spouse with PTSD.
I find it very interesting this story was also written at the same time they talk about Dead beat Dad. As I seen many relationships where women that have been abused by men on excreted their power over the men that are the father of their children when they no long want to live with the man that they co-created A NEW LIFE WITH.
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Morey Weingard 02/04/2009 3:24:00 PM
"Regardless of what she did or didn't do, NOBODY and I DO MEAN NOBODY deserves to be raped let alone drugged then raped! It doesn't matter if your the most outstanding citizen or the biggest crack whore, nobody deserves that kind of violation." - Really, how about Hitler?
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Hari 01/31/2009 12:32:00 AM
lol. Doesn't anyone see the stupidity?
If this can only be understood by someone who has experienced it, why not title it as such and, more importantly, publish it in a magazine or column for rape victims? Or, at the very least, add a disclaimer/condition - "comments should only be from rape victims or co-victims."
If the writer expects/hopes to 'awaken readers to the horrors of rape', shouldn't we be feeding this to our children beginning grade one? Inscribe their clean minds with these stories so they'll never do this?
Any journalist who writes what he thinks people want to hear sucks.
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Hari 01/31/2009 12:31:00 AM
lol. Doesn't anyone see the stupidity?
If this can only be understood by someone who has experienced it, why not title it as such and, more importantly, publish it in a magazine or column for rape victims? Or, at the very least, add a disclaimer/condition - "comments should only be from rape victims or co-victims."
If the writer expects/hopes to 'awaken readers to the horrors of rape', shouldn't we be feeding this to our children beginning grade one? Inscribe their clean minds with these stories so they'll never do this?
Any journalist who writes what he thinks people want to hear sucks.
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Ravi 01/31/2009 12:29:00 AM
lol. Doesn't anyone see the stupidity?
If this can only be understood by someone who has experienced it, why not title it as such and, more importantly, publish it in a magazine or column for rape victims? Or, at the very least, add a disclaimer/condition - "comments should only be from rape victims or co-victims."
If the writer expects/hopes to 'awaken readers to the horrors of rape', shouldn't we be feeding this to our children beginning grade one? Inscribe their clean minds with these stories so they'll never do this?
Any journalist who writes what he thinks people want to hear sucks.
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reader 01/30/2009 7:05:00 AM
Uhh... it's illogical. Letting go of such a crime won't give either the wife or the husband any kind of closure. The fact that the wife felt the fear of being condemned by the public means she never had any closure with her past experiences where she was condemned for being raped or for speaking about being raped.
Keeping quiet or pretending things didn't happen won't heal anyone. If you get shot and wounded by a bullet and pretend that it will be fine without medical help, sooner or later you'll bleed to death.
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Herb Dickerson 01/29/2009 5:30:00 AM
I don't like this story. It is just a bit too... ick.
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Terri 01/29/2009 4:16:00 AM
I have personally know women who have gone through what Ella went through, her story is not unusual in the sense that it is too far fetched to be true. I think that those who dispute either the writing or the story want to keep hidden abuse of any sort out of the limelight and go along they way in their tiny little selfish bubbles. I was also once drugged, thank God nothing happened to me. My guess is the brother was probably being abused himself, a 9-year-old didn't make up oral sex on his own. I dare one of you sorry saps who wrote badly about this story have even one of those incidences happen to you and let's see how you turn out. Also notice how it is mostly males who are on the opposing side of the story and calling it a bunch of lies? And for those of you who don't feel sorry for addicts, shame on you. You're so perfect?! Obviously to make such a comment just shows your tiny heart and large ignorance of the subject of addiction. And for Bill, he has a heart and put it out there for someone he truly loves. For those of you who knock Bill, you obviously as well, don't love anyone but yourself and I doubt anyone loves you back.
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Terri 01/29/2009 4:12:00 AM
I have personally know women who have gone through what Ella went through, her story is not unusual in the sense that it is too far fetched to be true. I think that those who dispute either the writing or the story want to keep hidden abuse of any sort out of the limelight and go along they way in their tiny little selfish bubbles. I was also once drugged, thank God nothing happened to me. My guess is the brother was probably being abused himself, a 9-year-old didn't make up oral sex on his own. I dare one of you sorry saps who wrote badly about this story have even one of those incidences happen to you and let's see how you turn out. Also notice how it is mostly males who are on the opposing side of the story and calling it a bunch of lies? And for those of you who don't feel sorry for addicts, shame on you. You're so perfect?! Obviously to make such a comment just shows your tiny heart and large ignorance of the subject of addiction. And for Bill, he has a heart and put it out there for someone he truly loves. For those of you who knock Bill, you obviously as well, don't love anyone but yourself and I doubt anyone loves you back.
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The D.B. 01/23/2009 8:05:00 PM
This is a wonderful story of strength and courage to move on and honor your vows. It sounds like they are in a better place now. Thank God!! They never gave up!! I wish them all the best and hope that only good things are in their future.
The D.B.
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The D.B. 01/23/2009 8:04:00 PM
This is a wonderful story of strength and courage to move on and honor your vows. It sounds like they are in a better place now. Thank God!! They never gave up!! I wish them all the best and hope that only good things are in their future.
The D.B.
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Matilda 01/22/2009 10:31:00 PM
I enjoyed reading the comments more than the article.
This article was a list of events, not a story.
Terrible.
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louise 01/22/2009 12:07:00 AM
If this story IS true, we need another story about the two children.
What are their lives like if their parents are living such a chaotic existence?
Settling down and having kids does not clean up a life when parents haven't dealt with their considerable unhealthy issues.
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Joel Rosenberg 01/20/2009 12:22:00 AM
It's a good story, largely because of the ambiguity, rather than in spite of it. It's consistent with a: she was drugged and/or fed too much booze and then raped; b: two people got drunk together and stuff happened c: she had a fling and made up a story . . .
. . . that makes it not pat, not not worth publishing, you know.
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dan 01/19/2009 11:45:00 PM
This is so sad. She has betrayed other women, because if she had the rape kit she could get rick's hair and get his dna and still prosecute. What did she make of her dream except that she should not let rick go on;
It is good of Bill to be supportive of her, and keep his family together. It is so wrong that she did not prosecute.
Also a reflection on our society that her family could exist, and the sexuality is so abused and that this abuse is not condemned. I feel that the religious conservatives have it right that our society is depraved and valueless - only the conservatives also say that the American way is unbridled profit, which is whqt commercialised sex to sell, look at how Bush defends profit and any social cost. The problem is also that they want to clean up sex by making women second class. What is needed is a new model in which femaleness is honoured and also protected.
What is not discussed enough is that rape is not sex, it is accompanied by beatings, mutiliation and violence. People don't know enough about rape, and they tend to trivialise it. Ella clearly needed help much earlier in life, because her self-destructive behaviour only invited males to take advantage of her. The issue of a woman's "right" to ber self-destructive is confusing to men, who need to make a new code for their own behaviour towardsd women. Young boys are getting mixed message from their fathers and peers and the media.
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D. A. Simonson 01/18/2009 12:56:00 AM
Moving, well written story. I appreciate the stark and surprisingly objective journalism displayed here.
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van_go 01/16/2009 1:17:00 AM
who cares about the f*kin grammatical technicalities?! this isn't a freaking literature class. . . it's a newspaper! and to critique someone's writing style is just plain stupid. i'm here to read ABOUT a story, get information. . . and it's even better if it's true. the STORY is a sad and unfortunate reminder that within our virtuous society remains those who have dark and cruel intentions. in this case, her past is irrelevant to the current situation. should all this be true, i hope justice is served. . ..and if not, then let my hand be of assistance in seeking it!
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karen 01/15/2009 11:24:00 PM
Thank you for telling this very painful story. It helped give continued voice to a rape that occured more than 28 yrs ago. I too decided not to prosecute because the rapist, slime, coward, pathetic insect was related to my head nurse at the small hospital in which I worked. I use to fantasize that he would be coming out from surgery and I would be his recovery nurse. Taunt him, withhold pain med and verbally and manually torture him while he lay on the guerney. This is all but left me now. I am a sober member of a 12 step program and have had much therapy to forgive me for putting myself in danger. I am married to a wonderful, protector who loves our life and home and I love the way you documented STRENGTH. PRAISE RECOVERY.......KAREN
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Erik 01/15/2009 10:56:00 PM
Complete crap. The people in the story need to get their shit together
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Kevin 01/14/2009 6:30:00 PM
To those who have questions about the accuracy of the story:
I had my own doubts, which is why I insisted that the reporter, Erin Carlyle, check the public records in every case where they would exist--including the cases involving her childhood rapes--and in every instance, they checked out. Carlyle also contacted several friends of the couple to verify details, and again they were confirmed. I think it is certainly fair to question the motives of the characters in this story, and different people will come to various conclusions, but I can vouch that the facts as Carlyle presents them are accurate.
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Crystal 01/14/2009 10:51:00 AM
Regardless of what she did or didn't do, NOBODY and I DO MEAN NOBODY deserves to be raped let alone drugged then raped! It doesn't matter if your the most outstanding citizen or the biggest crack whore, nobody deserves that kind of violation. I've been molested 4 times and raped 2. I may have put myself in bad situations, but still didn't deserve it. Just because you wear "slutty" clothes doesn't mean your asking for it (some girls, yes. Usually not though). Being raped or violated, especially at a young age can severely screw a person up. You get a very wrong idea of what love really is and how men are suppose to treat you. Life ends up being a giant misconception. Regardless of validity of the article, what happened to "Ella" is majorly screwed up, and my heart goes out to her. "Bill" did what he thought was best. It's not always what you do but the thought behind it. They both went through very normal reactions and range of emotions. I hope they have worked through everything. Personally if she has enough solid evidence that it was "Rick" prosecute that bastard. And even if there isn't enough to prove him guilty, God will punish him. Karma is a bitch sometimes. Before you write hateful comments look inside your in self and imagine how you'd feel if this happened to you or someone very close to you.
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Crystal 01/14/2009 10:43:00 AM
Regardless of what she did or didn't do, NOBODY and I DO MEAN NOBODY deserves to be raped let alone drugged then raped! It doesn't matter if your the most outstanding citizen or the biggest crack whore, nobody deserves that kind of violation. I've been molested 4 times and raped 2. I may have put myself in bad situations, but still didn't deserve it. Just because you wear "slutty" clothes doesn't mean your asking for it (some girls, yes. Usually not though). Being raped or violated, especially at a young age can severely screw a person up. You get a very wrong idea of what love really is and how men are suppose to treat you. Life ends up being a giant misconception. Regardless of validity of the article, what happened to "Ella" is majorly screwed up, and my heart goes out to her. "Bill" did what he thought was best. It's not always what you do but the thought behind it. They both went through very normal reactions and range of emotions. I hope they have worked through everything. Personally if she has enough solid evidence that it was "Rick" prosecute that bastard. And even if there isn't enough to prove him guilty, God will punish him. Karma is a bitch sometimes. Before you write hateful comments look inside your in self and imagine how you'd feel if this happened to you or someone very close to you.
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bob 01/14/2009 8:56:00 AM
What the heck is this?
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Lovelyplayfellow 01/13/2009 11:31:00 PM
I was intrigued by the title and the sensational artwork on the cover. Before I started reading, I anticipated an article written from a man's point of view about rape- and rape wherein he was positioned as a co-victim. That is somehow what I expected, for no other reason than the title and the cover art.
This article starts by giving background on the couple- he was a responsible college student, she was a slutty party girl who did drugs. Right away, I felt like they were setting this up with rape as a give-in. Stupid methed out slutty girl, of course she is heading down a one way street to rape. Poor male protagonist, he will be hurt by her choices of sluthood and drug use, it is doubly her fault....
Once it relates this couple's history, it then spends paragraphs and paragraphs talking about the woman's childhood experiences of sexual assault, incest and "deviance". One might think this would be a way to mitigate the tone of censorship used in contrasting her ways to her future husband's-- she is a slutty party drug girl because that is all she has known. I am not sure that is the intention --or the effect achieved. All I know is I spent paragraphs reading about previous rapes, heartbreak etc et al, that I felt had no bearing on the story (I thought) was being told.
moving on- this couple gets married, has kids. She stops doing drugs, has a job. She gets slipped a mickey and is raped by a coworker at a hotel. She tells her husband and much emotional upheaval ensues. She decides not to prosecute. This throws the husband into rages, which he then works through and decides that submitting a short letter to the rapist via the city pages is the way to get closure on it. The letter basically says: you are a small man for raping a woman. I am a real man.
So this letter doesn't really say anything about how this made the husband feel, besides angry. He seeks to emasculate the attacker in a very roundabout way. And the article turns into a story about his victimhood in a roundabout way-- His wife's inherent rape-ability, and her refusal to bring up charges made him powerless. The whole back story of her childhood is now used as a kind of way to excuse her inability to press charges- this sort of thing is both normal for her and so traumatic and complicated at the same time. She just wants to move on, at the expense of her husband's need for vengeance of some kind. Also, the rape ruined their sex life. Poor husband.
In short, what I thought would be an interesting article about rape, told by a man, in a way that shared the victimhood of his wife, turned out to be a story wherein the victimhood was assumed by the husband at the expense of his wife's, who got herself raped and then wouldn't even prosecute.
lame.
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me 01/13/2009 11:17:00 PM
Not believable ! She goes from a waitress to a management job with her past? C'mon. The whole thing is a scam. A mini porn novel.
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Eric 01/13/2009 9:22:00 PM
Hoffman, you'll get your coveted "clicks" with this piece of shit story, but your integrity as an editor is even lower than I thought. There are stories out there that deserve to be told. This isn't one of them.
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Rebecca 01/13/2009 9:00:00 AM
If all you can think about is what kind of movie it would make, it's a failure as a piece of journalism. I too though it was a work of "fiction" based on the source material. There's no point to the story. Far too many women are assaulted every year. Why are we discussing this one? Nothing in the "article" explains what relevance this has in the community or any larger scope. Nor is there any context for the relevance of Ella's past beyond dramatic effect. A complete disappointment. I can't understand why this was included in City Pages at all, let alone as the cover story.
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Kristin Thompson 01/13/2009 5:43:00 AM
Dear City Pages,
In your recent article, �An Open Letter to the Man who Raped my Wife� by Erin Carlyle, I was deeply disappointed. The editorial produced a number of running stereotypes surrounding women who have been raped either they �asked for or deserved it�. Bringing up �Ella�s� past abuse and sexual history, the reader is lead to believe her being raped is not a big deal since she has been through a related incident. Also, saying, �Ella was feeling kind of sexy in her calf-high boots, flowery blouse, and new jeans that made her butt look good.� The sentence expresses to the reader she was, �asking for it�. I for one was extremely interested and excited in the fact that a man was talking about and angry about rape. It is due time in our society to hear a man protesting such a horrendous crime; a crime in which women are the primary advocates against because the majority of rape survivors are women. Instead, I find a completely hollow and pointless story that is not revolutionary in its reporting about rape and the survivor. Where are the husband�s words toward the rapist? Where is his letter which he wrote to City Pages? The husband did not even have a voice. I was expecting to hear a testimony from a man who detests the act of rape and give the rapist a piece of his mind. No. I found the reoccurring theme, the same depiction of rape and the rape survivor. It is about time rape was given a new, more truthful stereotype; no matter who you are and no matter what situation you were in, rape is never justifiable.
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kjo1969 01/13/2009 1:25:00 AM
"Those who cast stones..."
Wow... this article is quite compelling. The experiences in Ella's life are obviously atrocious, and it's impressive that she made it through high school and was able to build a successful life on such degrading and abusive foundation.
It is disgusting that so many have commented with disbelief and disparagement to Ella and Bill's credibility.
Just because her life doesn't look like YOURS doesn't mean that this story is based on lies. How narcissistic and closed-minded for people to doubt her experiences simply because they SEEM too far-fetched according to the deluded picket-fence-American-dream lifestyle. That is exactly WHY such a story should be published.
I think Ella's done a great job turning her life around and not falling victim to the degrading, horrific circumstances that shaped her youth. She was kicked down... and had a hard time getting up, but now she's up and thriving with a loving and supportive husband.
I too was swept up in this story, and think it was tastefully written - especially amidst the vulnerable and graphic details.
Kudos to Bill and Ella for prevailing. This WOULD make a great movie.
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MeagerBadge 01/12/2009 11:05:00 PM
I seriously think I saw this movie once, when I got home from school, they lied and called it a "special". Bill is a sap, plain and simple, and Ella? A natural born victim. I agree with previous comments that this story seems written sophomorically, and to that I add, disjointed as well. Quentin Tarnatino can direct a movie out of sequence which translates into a final product that is understandable, this story however, not so much. The details are out of order and several times while reading I had to return to previous pages because I could not remember if an individual was a new character from Ella's past, or I missed their first introduction. In this world we cannot expect change without the constitution to affect the world. If you are a victim, report it, pursue it, and get justice by the letter of the law, if you are still unsatisfied with the legal justice that may be meted out, then change the system. Bill was studying to be a lawyer was he not? He was near graduation was he not? It seems to me that too many people want someone else to change the world over their situation. If you can't believe in your cause enough to do something about, then don't expect anyone else to give an effort. If "Bill" & "Ella" are left to decide action on events, rape is a crime punishable by sobbing, open letter writing, and therapeutic resolutions. Having been victimized by crime as well (though certainly not rape), I have had my share of victim anger to work through, as well as seeing failures and triumphs in the judicial system on those matters and I say this to you "Bill & Ella, if you are real, and your story is true, you have lived a pathetic lie since you first discussed Dylan Thomas, you should be ashamed of yourselves for going gently into that quiet night. You have pissed on the candle of rage and blackened the candle and caused the dying of the light." Invictus, to all.
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MeagerBadge 01/12/2009 9:23:00 PM
I seriously think I saw this movie once, when I got home from school, they lied and called it a "special". Bill is a sap, plain and simple, and Ella? A natural born victim. I agree with previous comments that this story seems written sophomorically, and to that I add, disjointed as well. Quentin Tarnatino can direct a movie out of sequence which translates into a final product that is understandable, this story however, not so much. The details are out of order and several times while reading I had to return to previous pages to remember if an individual was a new character from the past, or I missed something. In this world we cannot expect change without the constitution to affect the world. If you are a victim, report it, pursue it, and get justice by the letter of the law, if you are still unsatisfied with the legal justice that may be meted out, then change the system. Bill was studying to be a lawyer was he not? He was near graduation was he not? It seems to me that too many people want someone else to change the world over their situation. If you can't believe in your cause enough to do something about, then don't expect anyone else to give an effort. If "Bill" & "Ella" are left to decide action on events, rape is a crime punishable by sobbing, open letter writing, and therapeutic resolutions. Having been victimized by crime as well (though certainly not rape), I have had my share of victim anger to work through, as well as seeing failures and triumphs in the judicial system on those matters and I say this to you "Bill & Ella, if you are real, and your story is true, you have lived a pathetic lie since you first discussed Dylan Thomas, you should be ashamed of yourselves for going gently into that quiet night. You have pissed on the candle of rage and blackened the candle and caused the dying of the light." Invictus, to all.
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Jae 01/12/2009 7:34:00 PM
WTF?! This is your editorial decision for front page?
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Isabelle 01/12/2009 10:59:00 AM
If the story of the woman's recent rape wasnt prefaced with her life of being a shady crackwhore, i might actually feel sorry for her.
The husband cant possibly be the brightest bulb either if he thought he could trust her in the first place.
The story kept me reading,but i honestly didnt care what happened to either of those idiots.
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beezul5 01/12/2009 9:04:00 AM
Oh God. Just a couple points here...
1. Assuming this article was designed, in someway, to affect change, anonymity is more than enough to throw the article aside. Those who wish change, need to be known.
2. I have no doubts that a nine year old boy(her brother)is capable of ejaculation, but at that age it would have been VERY new to him, surely too new to create some ritual out of it.....I find it very hard to believe a boy that age would get any satisfaction in what was described.
3. Our protagonist has such a disgust for pornography that he memorizes Hamlet instead? Really?
4. It's just so freaking unlikely these two would ever date, let alone get married.
5.She suggested therapy? After a jaunt to her ex-boyfriends?
I really have to call bull $hit on this article guys. I have no doubt "Ella" was abused. But what I just read was so far out of the reality sphere that Im forced to opine that this thing was not only made up, but embellished to the point of ridiculousness.
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B 01/11/2009 6:02:00 AM
This piece was terrible.
Sensationalist crap.
It's unfortunate though, because the original letter sent to the City Pages by the husband is well written and meaningful. (http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2009/0/an_open_letter.php)
Why have a writer try to capture this man's rage and pain, you should have published the letter and let him speak for himself!
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Vicki 01/10/2009 1:10:00 AM
It is apparent that the men who so degraded this victim of violence in this blog has never encountered someone close in this situation. Bravo for Ella and Bill. I was a victim of incest starting at the age of 7-14. When all this is happening at such a young age, you learn that is how you get love from men. My story is similar. Don't look at her acts, look at what created these acts. I did not have any self esteem. I felt dirty and unloved. I married an abuser, I was gang raped, I was raped by other peoples brothers because I was taught that's what brothers do. I used drugs and alcohol and had a life I wouldn't wish on anyone. I divorced and married a man who knew my past, helped me through flashbacks of rape, stayed with me through years of alcoholism. I have been drug and alcohol free for 21 months and have been married to this loving man for twenty. Yes, I put him through hell. My life was hell. By the grace of God I have been blessed with recovery and a sense of self esteem. Shame on all of you that have passed judgement on the tragedy of others. Thank you Bill for writing the story and God bless you Ella!!!
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soldierboy 01/09/2009 5:42:00 AM
Amen brother.
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Randy 01/09/2009 1:38:00 AM
Since when do 9-year-olds shoot cum?
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herb dickerson 01/08/2009 10:21:00 PM
If you sit in the barber shop long enough, you will get a haircut.
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Eric 01/08/2009 9:57:00 PM
The only thing missing from the article was "Rick"'s real name and current home/work addresses. Outing that rapist SOB would have been a nice epilogue.
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Gustav 01/08/2009 9:36:00 PM
This article is a piece of amateurish drivel that only makes me have disdain for all these people, and only dishonors rape and incest survivors. Not all victims are self-destructive losers!
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Steve 01/08/2009 9:22:00 PM
Is this fiction? "As told to Erin Carlyle" - truly world class journalism. What a joke.
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Steve 01/08/2009 8:05:00 PM
6 pages of rubbish. A sensitive subject but boring read.
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Ceejay 01/08/2009 8:04:00 PM
Wow, this was amazingly wrenching. I was completely swept up. I think the parts about the communication gap after the rape could help a lot of people understand what the other is thinking in situations like this. It even helped me understand the distance that opens up when my partner is experiencing depression.
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The Truth 01/08/2009 7:52:00 PM
Craig C., you are a D-Bag. Get off your high horse, please.
City Pages - looks like Craig C. is available to take over as the editor of your AWESOME publication! Careful though, not sure anyone would read the garbage that he would approve of.
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Craig C. 01/08/2009 10:02:00 AM
This is without question the most sophomoric piece of journalism I have ever read. Not only is the subject matter clearly out of the reach of this very poor writer, it's taboo nature is rendered absurdly inappropriate for even those daring enough to enter after seeing the equally inappropriate cover art. What were you thinking? There is nothing rhetorical about this question, I truly am befuddled.
I encourage all who are upset, for whatever reason, and there are many, to contact the publisher of the paper directly, as the editor clearly has no regard for taste:
mbartel@citypages.com
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S 01/08/2009 9:55:00 AM
As a partner of an incest survivor, I have a lot of empathy for Bill. Kudos to you, Bill, for respecting your wife's wishes and not perpetuating the cycle of violence by going after Rick. My only concern is that Ella is still working with Rick- she's already been re-traumatized, being in contact with him in any way is not going to help her heal. Get the hell out of there, Ella. For your own sake, and your family's.
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Andy 01/07/2009 9:50:00 PM
Wow. Excellent piece.
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David 01/07/2009 8:46:00 PM
For fuck's sake, it's the same insensitivity and apathy shown by you that perpetuates sick attitudes shown in this story. Go ahead, put on your guard and feel nothing for someone who was dealt a shitty hand starting from her attic at age 7. Remove yourself from her story and build your facade since you apparently have it all. The story is about grace and being able to hold onto it regardless of the circumstances. Bill could have left her long before, but he knew her past from their beginning. He held on when you may have fled. Did it work? Maybe. But he did make a promise to her, and even when he knew she was high when he made it, he kept it and didn't leave her. What a better story of hope in a 'fake empire' than we see regularly from our daily news.
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Mobius 01/07/2009 1:43:00 PM
The guy basically went through a range of emotions towards his wife being raped by a coward, and deciding not to exact old-school punishment onto someone who probably deserves a good beating.
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Donal 01/07/2009 11:28:00 AM
Sounds like this guy is being duped. Sounds like she always played close to the edge and got burned - again. The husband deserves better if you ask me. It's the old 'I don't remember what happened' schtick. Well man, go ahead and write the letter you won't send, fantasize about revenge while remaining impotent. Don't worry, she'll go along with it - you are her doormat after all.
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Did you read it? 01/07/2009 3:48:00 AM
It's about a woman getting raped and her husband having to grapple with his desire for revenge. It would make a great movie.
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Eric 01/07/2009 2:12:00 AM
What the fuck is the point of this story?
