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Last month, after Gov. Tim Pawlenty and the Republican Party revived their public push to solve Minnesota's looming budget crisis on the backs of Native American tribes, Helen Blue-Redner responded with a demand of her own: a challenge that the governor meet her in a face-to-face debate. Blue-Redner, the Princeton-educated chairwoman of the Upper Sioux Community, figured she might be able to set the governor straight on some elemental matters of Indian gaming and law. Perhaps she might even get Pawlenty to acknowledge the considerable gall of his noisy, election-season demands for a "fair deal" from Minnesota Indians--a group that, as any schoolchild knows, has been on the wrong end of some of the most egregiously unfair deals in the state's history.
Not surprisingly, Pawlenty, whose opposition to the expansion of gaming in Minnesota has dissipated like a budget surplus, didn't take Blue-Redner up on her offer. Instead, the governor summoned Minnesota's 11 tribal chairs to a private meeting in St. Paul, where he proposed they "discuss" his plan that the tribes cough up $350 million annually--or face the prospect of Las Vegas-style competition.
The gambit did not go over well with the tribes. Only two tribal representatives showed for the meeting--Leech Lake chair George Goggleye and White Earth chair Erma Vizenor--and both were quick to let the governor know that the state's largest and poorest bands have no money to share. Instead, they took the opportunity to resuscitate a proposal that the state allow the northern tribes to build a metro area casino, under a tribal/state profit sharing scheme yet to be determined.
Blue-Redner, like nine of the eleven other tribal CEOs , declined the opportunity to meet Pawlenty for what would be, in essence, a private shakedown. But Blue-Redner did talk to City Pages about what she would have liked to say to the governor in a public debate. Nearing the end of her first term as the chairwoman of the Upper Sioux, Blue-Redner, who has presided over a relatively prosperous period in the 440-member community's recent history, did not mince words in her denunciation of Pawlenty and the new generation of Indian fighters.
With its remote location in rural far western Minnesota (near the town of Granite Falls), Blue-Redner points out, the Upper Sioux's Prairie's Edge Casino has not made the Upper Sioux rich. But it has improved the standard of living on the reservation, where median family income now hovers around $25,000. In other words, it has done precisely what Congress intended in passing the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act in 1988: lifted the Upper Sioux tribal members out of abject poverty.
City Pages:After Pawlenty made his demand for a cut of tribal money, you said you wanted to publicly debate him. Did the governor respond? And what are the points you most wanted to make?
Helen Blue-Redner: No, I never did get a direct response from the governor's office. I did see his chief of staff at our second annual tribal dignitaries meeting. The only thing he said is that the governor is still anxious to have a discussion with all the chairs, which I know he is, because he still thinks he'll get the $350 million. The reason I wanted to debate is that I want the public to understand the tribes don't have any legal commitment to revenue sharing with the state. We're not Connecticut. We're not New Mexico. We're not California. We have different compacts in this state.
I think a debate would also help clarify the legalities of the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act. There is a section in the act that prohibits states from taxing tribes. The governor is trying to enact a de facto tax that puts the burdens of the state on the backs of Indian people. Whatever no-new-taxes pledge he took, that is of his own making. Whatever decisions were made by the legislature that resulted in these multimillion dollar deficits, that's of their own making. This should be a shared burden on all of the state's citizens, not the Indian people
CP:Pawlenty seems to think that $350 million constitutes a reasonable contribution from the tribes. Did the size of that figure surprise you?
Blue-Redner: I was very disgusted, but I wasn't surprised. We're in a political climate that lends credibility to such demands. On the other hand, I'm very heartened to see so many people speak out against it.
CP:How did people from the Upper Sioux Community react?
Blue-Redner: It's been a very harmonious response, and we don't often have that. I think the people of the Upper Sioux Community are happy that our leadership told the governor we will have no part of his extortion demand.
CP:Do you think Pawlenty really wants to bring Vegas-style gambling to Minnesota, or do you think it's just a bluff to bring the tribes to the tables?
Blue-Redner: In the past, I always thought it was a bluff. Now I think he is serious about this. Failing that, I think he's going to keep leaning on the tribes. I don't think it's good leadership on his part to go back on his word. He came into office on the platform that he would not support an expansion of gambling as recently as last February. At the Minnesota Chippewa Tribe legislative dinner, Lt. Governor [Carol] Molnau said, to rousing applause, that the governor's office wouldn't support an expansion of gambling. Everyone talks about flip-flopping, well, here you've got it.