"There's a very famous interviewer in the U.K. called Michael Parkinson," explains Etchells. "He did an interview with this guy Rod Hull, who had an emu puppet. Hull was basically a kids' entertainer, but he kind of grew into something else. The emu thing was very naughty. It liked to kind of pick stuff up, and it was quite violent; it would attack people. And he attacked Parkinson so much that it was clearly annoying him. The emu knocked him off his chair, and they were rolling on the floor. You could see Parkinson thinking, 'I really don't like this, this is really unpleasant,' wanting to hit the guy. But it was all done under the guise of this puppet, so he was kind of stuck."